toad's slow death

[BlueisallIneed]

I agree with you Grif, but it's just the cruelty of what I read that got me angry...

Agree 100%

[Squirp]

Oh, I wasn't trying to bash, stir the pot, or any such rhetorical subtle cage rattling.
I just have come to appreciate Poly's remarks on topics, and his patience to quickly handle and offer his own idea's for peoples amphibian crisis's.
I don't want to see him get upset over things like this, so I figured offering him the idea to question the sometimes hidden intentions of a threads existence.
Then you don't have to buy into emotions, or you know which ones to respond with to get more beneficial results. I took a more calm stance to this thread from the beginning. I didn't find JONPWN appalling or offensive, so much as just somewhat psychologically distraught about this situation, and I'd rather extend the hand and help him out, and find a more delicate way to bring up those serious thoughts that jump into peoples minds. I'd rather be nice and try to keep Jonpwn here on the site, so he can continue to ask questions, and not feel like he's sticking his head into the guillotine. I'll even try to take on some of the responsibility to help people out, so long as everyone else chimes in if something needs to be elaborated, or if I get something flat out wrong, I'm not an expert, there is a ton of research out there and I always learn something new here. So.. yeah. help each other out, teamwork. go get em.. yeah, huddle up and break with a nice manly sports like cheer and grunt, no towel slapping though, I've talk to the administration and they said they won't put up with that kinda malarkey. Apparently it's very low brow, I didn't know that because where I come from we have such a robust and playful heritage.

[Poly]

Oh, I wasn't trying to bash, stir the pot, or any such rhetorical subtle cage rattling.
I just have come to appreciate Poly's remarks on topics, and his patience to quickly handle and offer his own idea's for peoples amphibian crisis's.
I don't want to see him get upset over things like this, so I figured offering him the idea to question the sometimes hidden intentions of a threads existence.
Then you don't have to buy into emotions, or you know which ones to respond with to get more beneficial results. I took a more calm stance to this thread from the beginning. I didn't find JONPWN appalling or offensive, so much as just somewhat psychologically distraught about this situation, and I'd rather extend the hand and help him out, and find a more delicate way to bring up those serious thoughts that jump into peoples minds. I'd rather be nice and try to keep Jonpwn here on the site, so he can continue to ask questions, and not feel like he's sticking his head into the guillotine. I'll even try to take on some of the responsibility to help people out, so long as everyone else chimes in if something needs to be elaborated, or if I get something flat out wrong, I'm not an expert, there is a ton of research out there and I always learn something new here. So.. yeah. help each other out, teamwork. go get em.. yeah, huddle up and break with a nice manly sports like cheer and grunt, no towel slapping though, I've talk to the administration and they said they won't put up with that kinda malarkey. Apparently it's very low brow, I didn't know that because where I come from we have such a robust and playful heritage.

I was going to write a huge response to Grif and Don... until I read your response Squirp...

[GrifTheGreat]

Oh, I wasn't trying to bash, stir the pot, or any such rhetorical subtle cage rattling.
I just have come to appreciate Poly's remarks on topics, and his patience to quickly handle and offer his own idea's for peoples amphibian crisis's.
I don't want to see him get upset over things like this, so I figured offering him the idea to question the sometimes hidden intentions of a threads existence.
Then you don't have to buy into emotions, or you know which ones to respond with to get more beneficial results. I took a more calm stance to this thread from the beginning. I didn't find JONPWN appalling or offensive, so much as just somewhat psychologically distraught about this situation, and I'd rather extend the hand and help him out, and find a more delicate way to bring up those serious thoughts that jump into peoples minds. I'd rather be nice and try to keep Jonpwn here on the site, so he can continue to ask questions, and not feel like he's sticking his head into the guillotine. I'll even try to take on some of the responsibility to help people out, so long as everyone else chimes in if something needs to be elaborated, or if I get something flat out wrong, I'm not an expert, there is a ton of research out there and I always learn something new here. So.. yeah. help each other out, teamwork. go get em.. yeah, huddle up and break with a nice manly sports like cheer and grunt, no towel slapping though, I've talk to the administration and they said they won't put up with that kinda malarkey. Apparently it's very low brow, I didn't know that because where I come from we have such a robust and playful heritage.

Much appreciated. You just have to watch what you say and how you word your responces because as I have recently found out people become very offended over misunderstanding. I believe I even ran the person off the forum which I had no intention of doing, but my responce could have been more candid than harsh. Just try not to keep pushing the subject once you spoke your peace and I mean everyone. Its the same as talking behind someones back. Especilly when the creater of the thread no longer responds. You all need to step back and place yourself in his shoes. Try to experience what he feels now, because if you do that then maybe you'll realize why I told you all to stop. I'm not the forum police but will not hesitate to try and stop people from going to far on here. Most of the time I'm too late. Make an example people know when to stop and be caring not downgrading ok.