Thank you all for the warm welcome, I've wanted frogs for a while so I decided to wait for 6 months and if I still wanted one I'd get one, well 6 months later I still do so I decided to set the viv up and buy frogs most suited to the size and set up I could provide, obviously not everything is avaliable straight away so I'll take a few weeks to set up and get things bit by bit until I have it all and during that look over all the suitable frogs and eliminate those that wouldn't be happy in my set up, I've read some great stuff already and look forward to reading more, talking to lots of you and showing off my new friends when I get them.