New pictures of my 2 giant P. edulis

[Daniel L]

Here are some new pics of the male and female giant P. Edulis. I call them giants because he is 7,5 inch and she is almost 5 inch.

[Mikey]

Get some blood work done on the male (I joke), there is no way that he is an edulis, he is a p. adspersus all the way. There is just no way

[Jimifrog]

Ummm, the milkman was an adspersus. Just saying.

[Buck Rogers]

Get some blood work done on the male (I joke), there is no way that he is an edulis, he is a p. adspersus all the way. There is just no way

Yip that is 100% P.adspersus. Check out this link of what edulis looks like: SAReptiles • View topic - Kwa Zulu Natal

It's also a cool link of some indigenous South African herps.

[Daniel L]

I know you all think this is an P. Adspersus because of his size and his head shape. But look at al the details. He croak also a an Edulis.

[Mikey]

Ya, I apologize. the new pictures have me questioning what I know about pixies. That is the biggest P. edulis male I have every seen in my life. How close are these species? Is there a chance it is a hybrid. that frog is just massive for a dwarf. Either way very very cool!

[Raya]

That boy is sooo awesome! Great frog you got there!

[tgampper]

It is P. adspersus. The tympanum (ear drum) is at least two eye diameters from the eye itself and there is no white spot in the tympanum. Thanks for the link Buck

[Eel Noob]

It is P. adspersus. The tympanum (ear drum) is at least two eye diameters from the eye itself and there is no white spot in the tympanum. Thanks for the link Buck

More like subspecies of adspersus or undescribed species?

[tgampper]

More like subspecies of adspersus or undescribed species?

Officially there are three species in the genus. Some claim that edulis is a subspecies of adspersus, others believe that they are separate species. At one time, edulis was known as P. adspersus angusticepts and P. a. edulis. Sounds confusing? There's more... recently, many species of frogs commonly known as "dwarf pyxies" have been moved into the genus Tomopterna. No matter what species, it is a good looking frog

Check out my related post: http://www.frogforum.net/african-bul...html#post91351

[pyxieBob]

Ya this is surely not an Adspersus. You can tell even from the 1st pics. A dwarf of some sort. myabe not a true Edulis. But def not Aspersus. Awesome looking frog though, he is great!

[Malachi]

Officially there are three species in the genus. Some claim that edulis is a subspecies of adspersus, others believe that they are separate species. At one time, edulis was known as P. adspersus angusticepts and P. a. edulis. Sounds confusing? There's more... recently, many species of frogs commonly known as "dwarf pyxies" have been moved into the genus Tomopterna. No matter what species, it is a good looking frog

Check out my related post: http://www.frogforum.net/african-bul...html#post91351

I have a "dwarf" however its not P. Edulis. There seems to be a lot of "other" species outside of the south african edulis and adspersus.

[tgampper]

I have a "dwarf" however its not P. Edulis. There seems to be a lot of "other" species outside of the south african edulis and adspersus.

Thanks, Malachi! I am beginning to think that these "other dwarfs" could be species in the genus Tomopterna (dwarf pyxies or sand frogs). There are 10 species in this genus. Even though these "dwarfs" look similar to edulis, they have a different genetic makeup. I also heard rumors that there could be a fourth species of Pyxicephalus but don't have any details. I would google Tomopterna images and see if your dwarf could be one of them. There are records in my older African amphibian field guides that have dwarf pyxies included in the genus Pyxicephalus.