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    Well everybody, i have a very sad question. The frog tht the petstore sent me was in bad shape. It has a cut on leg, pussed up cut on foot joint, ulcer, and open sore on her back. No herp vet but have domestic pet vets( dogs, cats, etc). And do you think you could folger coffee grounds as a bedding for tree frogs.. lol. do u think its possible? thanks everybody, and please if you can help me and the frog ANY suggestions are welcome. Thanks, peyton

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    LazyEyedFroggie
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    You absolutely cannot use coffe grounds as substrate, it wouldn't be safe or comfortable at all. That's basically like giving it cold coffee for water. Not a good idea. Just try to keep it clean, give it calcium/vitamin dusted crickets as food, and use a non-toxic antibiotic ointment if you can find one. Where's the nearest herp vet? and what conditions are you keeping it in now? Also, a solitary set-up with damp paper towel substrate is best for injured individuals. Is it lathargic/how's it acting?

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    Hi Peyton,
    Like Robin, I am also wondering how is he acting ? , and is he eating ??

    You may have read all of these suggestions?:
    I just wanted to mention that it should be antibiotic ointment ( ie neosporin ) WITHOUT pain killer in it !!
    Use a q-tip to apply - not your finger, hopefully while the frog is asleep if possible so the frog is disturbed as little as possible.
    A 'great frog' keeper once told me " when a frog is handled it thinks only 2 things. ! 1) it going to be eaten , or 2) it going to be squished.

    Same with the daily changing of the dampened paper towel. Use spring water or treated tap for wetting down the towel- make it really wet !
    Keep him warm and feed him well every day! Make sure the crickets are not to big ( so he does not struggle) .
    Remove uneaten crickets in the morning ---- re - gut load and feed again before lights out.
    Don't mist with cold water.
    Cover three sides of the quarantine tank, it will help him feel safer.
    His injuries/ infection and stress have compromised his immune system. Keep him in a quiet , warm place as stress free as possible and he will have a better chance of healing.

    Peyton, one of my red eyed tree frogs was a rescue. He was in quarantine for 6 months . He was badly scratched up and his eye was all yuckie. I soaked that little guy every day sometimes twice. I waited til he fell sound asleep ( on a pothos leaf), filled a small, very , very, very, clean saucer with warm spring water ( just set the dish under the light for a minute or so to warm the water) and slipped the saucer and the leaf with him on it into the clean warm water. As gently as possible so he does not wake up. If he wakes up- stop -and try again when he goes back to sleep. The good thing about using the pothos leaf is that you are handling the leaf not the frog! It just needs to be for 2 minutes or so. I did not use neosporin. I was afraid it would get into his eyes when he shed? Don't know , it's hard call to make.

    Hopefully you will be able to find a vet to take a look at him ?

    Hope he comes along !!! Let us know
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    i would feed him, but he will not eat. His paper towels are wet with spring water. He is lazy. definetly lazy... I have neosporin on it constantly. With no pain killer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by treefrogsrules View Post
    i would feed him, but he will not eat. His paper towels are wet with spring water. He is lazy. definetly lazy... I have neosporin on it constantly. With no pain killer.
    Peyton,
    Hang in there. We should hope the neosporin will kick in and start to help heal his wounds.
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    Dendrobates auratus "Pena Blanca"
    Dendrobates tinctorius “New River”
    Dendrobates tinctorius "Green Sipaliwini"
    Dendrobates tinctorius “Powder Blue"
    Dendrobates tinctorius "French Guiana Dwarf Cobalt"

    Phyllobates terribilis “Mint”
    Phyllobates terribilis "Orange"
    Phyllobates bicolor "Uraba"

    Oophaga pumilio "Black Jeans"
    Oophaga pumilio "Isla Popa"
    Oophaga pumilio "Bastimentos"
    Oophaga pumilio “Mimbitimbi”
    Oophaga pumilio "Rio Colubre"
    Oophaga pumilio "Red Frog Beach”
    Oophaga pumilio "Rio Branco"
    Oophaga pumilio “Valle del Rey”
    Oophaga pumilio "BriBri"
    Oophaga pumilio "El Dorado"
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    Oophaga pumilio "Rambala"

    Oophaga “Vicentei” (blue)

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    keep a few insect in with him for a few hours if you can, he may eat if he's given a lot of alone time with the bugs. Also, mealworms are probably better than crickets in this situation due to their slow motion. They are easier to capture. Pillbugs are also good

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    Quote Originally Posted by LazyEyedFroggie View Post
    keep a few insect in with him for a few hours if you can, he may eat if he's given a lot of alone time with the bugs. Also, mealworms are probably better than crickets in this situation due to their slow motion. They are easier to capture. Pillbugs are also good
    ??? I don't know. I think when their senses are dulled and they are sick? that they need- fast moving dinner?

    They need to SEE their food move .
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    Dendrobates auratus "Pena Blanca"
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    Dendrobates tinctorius "Green Sipaliwini"
    Dendrobates tinctorius “Powder Blue"
    Dendrobates tinctorius "French Guiana Dwarf Cobalt"

    Phyllobates terribilis “Mint”
    Phyllobates terribilis "Orange"
    Phyllobates bicolor "Uraba"

    Oophaga pumilio "Black Jeans"
    Oophaga pumilio "Isla Popa"
    Oophaga pumilio "Bastimentos"
    Oophaga pumilio “Mimbitimbi”
    Oophaga pumilio "Rio Colubre"
    Oophaga pumilio "Red Frog Beach”
    Oophaga pumilio "Rio Branco"
    Oophaga pumilio “Valle del Rey”
    Oophaga pumilio "BriBri"
    Oophaga pumilio "El Dorado"
    Oophaga pumilio "Cristobal"
    Oophaga pumilio "Rambala"

    Oophaga “Vicentei” (blue)

    Oophaga sylvatica "Paru"
    Oophaga sylvatica "Pata Blanca"
    Oophaga histrionica “Redhead”
    Oophaga histrionica "Blue"
    Oophaga lehmanni "Red"
    Oophaga histrionica "Tado"

    Ranitomeya variabilis "Southern"
    Ranitomeya imitator "Varadero"
    Ranitomeya sirensis "Lower Ucayali"
    Ranitomeya vanzolinii

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    I certainly do agree with that statement, but crickets can be tough to catch! they're pretty fast.... hmm....

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