50 Gallon Upright Vivarium for Amphibian Inhabitants? Tree Frogs? PDF's?

[Poly]

Hey FrogForum'ers!

So I recently aquired a 50 Gallon Upright Display case... ya, I know it's not an aquarium, but it's just as good!... I mean, c'mon! It's already equiped with over head light sockets, thick glass sides on 3 sides, a mirror on the rear, and a full opening front... PLUS all glas can be removed for easy cleaning!

I'll be sealing it up with GE II silicone, and either replacing the front door glass with plastic mesh or maybe cut a section in the roof?

Either way, I have two questions:

1. What would be a suitable inhabitant? Posion Dart Frog? Tree Frog? It's dimensions are: 64" (162 cm) Tall x 15" (38 cm) Long x 12" (30cm) Wide

I was thinking of getting a Red-Eyed Leaf Frog from this site: Port Credit Pet Centre 65$ isn't thaaat bad... Or maybe a one of these frogs:Other Frogs for Sale | Understory Enterprises (UnderStory only offers two tree frogs)

2. Does this "tank" provide enough space for a Tree frog? I don't think it would be suited very well for Poison Dart frogs...

Thanks!

~Royce

[Badger]

I don't think it would be good for darts either, not enough floor space, but it would be awesome for tree frogs. RETFs, White's, or maybe waxy monkey frogs? I love my whites, they are always smiling and are very laid back.

[Kristen]

I agree with Dalton, tree frogs would be better, and whites are the best

[Poly]

I don't think it would be good for darts either, not enough floor space, but it would be awesome for tree frogs. RETFs, White's, or maybe waxy monkey frogs? I love my whites, they are always smiling and are very laid back.

Yeah, I kind of figured that. Tree Frogs it is! I have always wanted a RETF....

[Badger]

Too bad! We've already determined you're going with WTF's. Lol.

[Poly]

Haha yeeah... true... I like whites, there sure freaky looking! But you just can't beat the elegance of the mighty RETF! Now I really can't wait to start the viv build!

[butcher]

Good call on the RETFs Royce!! Sorry Dalton and Kristen!!

[Badger]

Haha, make a journal so we can see how it comes along. How's the tomato frog viv coming?

[Heatheranne]

I definitely agree, tree frogs would be perfect. Tough choices, I like them all. I'm particularly fond of retf's, but that grey is adorable!

[Kristen]

Can you get whites in Canada ?

[donnaturner]

I like whites, there sure freaky looking.

[mim]

i really want to pinch my husbands glass cabinet to do exactly the same thing. its huge but i dont think i got any chance lol. would look great tho. hope urs is goin ok, cant wait to see it!

[Heatheranne]

Any ideas for your tank design yet? I never would have thought of a curio though. Great idea! I can't wait to see it! Can you also get albino retf's there? That'd be a nice variation of color .

[Poly]

Any ideas for your tank design yet? I never would have thought of a curio though. Great idea! I can't wait to see it! Can you also get albino Red-Eyed Leaf Frog's there? That'd be a nice variation of color .

Thanks! No, sadly I'm very limited to the frogs I can get, but I just contacted UnderStory, and I can get P. hypochondrialis for 35$ each... not sure on them though? I'd really like red eyes, but it's hard to find them!

Well, as for the design, it's a little flimbsy, so I'll have to make it a little more rigid somehow, but other than that, it's all glass on 3 sides, and the back is a mirror, so what I was thinking was:

-Use about 6-8" of plantation soil substrate to plant a 5ft+ tall leafy plant in (Still not sure on where I'm going to acquire/purchase one?).
-To cover up the mirror, I'm going to cut a 2" thick x 15" wide x 64" tall piece of styrofoam, (make some holes in it for pots for plants, maybe some caves too ) smear it good with a thick layer of GE II silicone, cover it in plantation soil, then silicone it to the mirror.
-For strength (and climbing ) silicone cut drift wood between the frame braces at the back (they will add more cover to the background plus a place for creeping fig to wrap around) for support & an area to plant broms as well, then have slender, longer peices of drift wood siliconed in on an angle, running from side to side (bacically running through the leaves of the plant) and I'm going to try to make a natural looking water bowl (out of styrofoam) so it dosen't have to decend to the bottom os the tank to soak, it'll be pretty full, probably won't see the frogs much because they'll have too many places to hide!

I'm going to be doing this over the winter, so we'll see how it works out! Any suggestions?

Thanks,

~Royce

[Heatheranne]

That sounds great!!!

[Poly]

That sounds great!!!

Thanks Can red-eyes climb on coco-fibre covered background?

[Badger]

I know my white's can, So I would assume red eye's can as well.And I'm glad you're the one doing this build. I like big builds, but that is a LOT of silicone smearing. Have fun >.<

[Heatheranne]

Yes, they can climb on almost everything. They can leap from branch to branch pretty far too. Stickers sometimes sleeps on the underside of her fake plant leaves. She's so heavy it pulls them down but she never falls off . They're pretty agile little frogs.

[Poly]

Haha, wow! That's great to know! Well, like I said, I wanted a 5ft+ tall leafy plant, some hopefully, real leaves just won't break off!

[Badger]

Hmm..You could try a home depot. A nursery would be your best bet though.