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    150 watts is way too hot. No higher than 50 watts. You need to make sure your frog has the right environment very soon. Stress is very bad and without the correct conditions you frog will become more stressed and become ill. Its ok to check on your frog just don't open the lid or disturb the enclosure when doing it. You need to know if the frog is eating without food and nutrition from calcium and vitamins young frogs develope health issues that can kill them or impare them later in their lives.


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    This is how everything is set up as of rightnow.

    Humidity stays between 75% and 80%. I try not to make the plantation soil mud, so I mist about 4 to 5 times a day.

    Temperature stays between 80 and 82 degrees between the hours of 8am and 8pm. After 8pm, I turn all lights off, except for the night light, and move the keeper away from the light. It still gets a little heat from it, but enough to drop it down to around 75 degrees.

    I had dropped 3 crickets in there about 2 nights ago, and one possibly 2 are still in there. It hasn't eaten in a week, if not longer. Since the last time I force fed it and it actually ate the worm. I think these crickets may be too little, and the pac cant see them? I have blood worms, but they are in frozen small blocks. I also have crickets, Canadian Night Crawlers, and multiple sizes of meal worms. What can I give the pac to spike up his food interest? Seems like it doesn't want anything to do with crickets or the crawlers.

    But the good news is............ It's started to burrow again. Now I looked at its water bowl, still clean as ever. So aparantly it isn't soaking. So I may have to make it soak.
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    Have you tried forcepts? Hold the cricket up to his/her face and rub it on his/her mouth. Your frog is a very small baby and needs food items that are no larger than the distance between the frogs eyes. When you drop them in make sure to drop them in front of the frog. Try only to mist when the humidity is below ideal range. More than this may be stressing your frog. Try the forcepts/tweezer idea. Hold the back of the cricket so there is plenty for the frog to bite on without grabbing the forcepts/tweezers. Try buying and infrared light for night time use as well. Sometimes I think the blue night lights do actually impare their eyesight.


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    I bought a pair of feeding tongs. The tips are small like needle nose pliers. I've tried rubbing the cricket on it's nose and it pushes it away or hops away. Or it just sits there, like it's ignoring everything. I've also noticed that it isn't freely getting into the water anymore. Do I need to start putting it in the water dish, or in some luke warm water? And I don't think the pet store was feeding at night. I think they may have been feeding during the morning hours/day time.

    How can I tell if it is male or female, or would it even be too young for that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tori Savage View Post
    I bought a pair of feeding tongs. The tips are small like needle nose pliers. I've tried rubbing the cricket on it's nose and it pushes it away or hops away. Or it just sits there, like it's ignoring everything. I've also noticed that it isn't freely getting into the water anymore. Do I need to start putting it in the water dish, or in some luke warm water? And I don't think the pet store was feeding at night. I think they may have been feeding during the morning hours/day time.

    How can I tell if it is male or female, or would it even be too young for that?
    You won't be able to tell whether its a male or female until its about 8 months to a year old. If they were feeding during daylight hours then its day night cycle may be messed up. If the frog is stressed and only if its stressed should you soak the little guy/girl. Sometimes stress is reduced if you soak them in luke warm de-chlorinated water with 2 to 3 drops of honey disolved in the water. I would say you need to offer food and leave the little guy/girl be for a night. Keep the night temps around 78 to 79. Sometimes if the soil is moist enough and there is enough humidity the frog won't use the water dish. Even if the frog doesn't get in the water you should change it everyday to every 2 days. Always change it after the frog enters the water. Offer food when the frog awakens and leave it be. Just drop them in and don't have any other bright lights besides its night light on. Break the hind legs off the crickets before putting them in. Keep us posted.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Tori Savage View Post
    I bought a pair of feeding tongs. The tips are small like needle nose pliers. I've tried rubbing the cricket on it's nose and it pushes it away or hops away. Or it just sits there, like it's ignoring everything. I've also noticed that it isn't freely getting into the water anymore. Do I need to start putting it in the water dish, or in some luke warm water? And I don't think the pet store was feeding at night. I think they may have been feeding during the morning hours/day time.

    How can I tell if it is male or female, or would it even be too young for that?
    You won't be able to tell whether its a male or female until its about 8 months to a year old. If they were feeding during daylight hours then its day night cycle may be messed up. If the frog is stressed and only if its stressed should you soak the little guy/girl. Sometimes stress is reduced if you soak them in luke warm de-chlorinated water with 2 to 3 drops of honey disolved in the water. I would say you need to offer food and leave the little guy/girl be for a night. Keep the night temps around 78 to 79. Sometimes if the soil is moist enough and there is enough humidity the frog won't use the water dish. Even if the frog doesn't get in the water you should change it everyday to every 2 days. Always change it after the frog enters the water. Offer food when the frog awakens and leave it be. Just drop them in and don't have any other bright lights besides its night light on. Break the hind legs off the crickets before putting them in. Keep us posted.


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    It finally ate!!! It ate 3 crickets night before last (Monday). It is burrowing again. And I think I've finally gotten the temps n stuff right!!! LOL About time!!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tori Savage View Post
    It finally ate!!! It ate 3 crickets night before last (Monday). It is burrowing again. And I think I've finally gotten the temps n stuff right!!! LOL About time!!!!!!!
    Good job. Keep up what your doing and use the advice given. You can feed the little guy/girl everyday as babies and young frogs need a lot of food an nutrition at these stages for healthy growth.


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    Well like they saying goes, "you can lead a horse to water, but can't make em drink it." I'll make sure it has crickets daily. But it's up to the frog if it wants to eat. Now if it goes at least a week without eating then I'll step in again. And I think it's trying to shed? When I soaked it for about 20 min last night (Wednesday) there were a few slimy strands in the water. More of it came off of it as I splashed it/it hopped around. There were at least 4-5 pieces of this. As I watched the cricket interaction last night as well, when a cricket would go near it, the pac huffed n puffed like it was the biggest threat on earth but never moved. It was so cute. It would like swell up kinda and looked like it was breathing really hard n fast until the cricket went away. Then it burrowed. It was funny. The plantation soil is about 1 in thick to 1 1/2 in thick. Does it need to be deeper than that?

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    Sorry to be a bearer of bad news, but my lil pac has died. Thanks for all the advice an support.

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    I'm very sorry to hear this. Probably passed from stress. Before you decide to get another do a lot of research and take the advice that has been given. Once again I am sorry.


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    Well I did do a lot of research from many sites. It doesn't help also going from one place that kept it at other temps and whatnot. But thanks for everything. Kinda really hurts that I've lost 2 frogs since thanksgiving. I hate holidays. Ugh!

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    Its not entirely your fault. Some just don't adjust well and usually become so stressed that they become sick and die. You tried the best you could and you are welcome for the help. Next time you'll be ready. I'm sorry about your other frog too.


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