Dead frog?

[bobgildolf]

Hi y'all
Its been a while since i've been on this site, but 1 of my white's died recently, so I thought someone here might know something....
Ive had my white's for about 3 years now, I originally had 2 and then bought another, the newest one (the smallest one, the male I think) seems to have been acting strange lately - spending alot of time in the water, not moving much, and doesnt seem to be eating anything, i've tried seperating them during feeding to make him eat but he won't.
Last week one of the females died unexpectedly, it wasn't showing any signs of illness, although it had been spending alot of time in one place. I just went to change the water and it was dead.
Whats going on?
Someone please help, as I fear that I may lose all of them.

[Kisa]

When you notice one of your frogs is sick or dies (as in the case of the female that you found dead) it is very important to separate the sick frogs from the healthy ones so whatever illness one may have had doesn't spread and kill the whole collection. We call this quarantining. Also you do this when you get a new frog that you plan on introducing to the rest of the frogs just in case they have some sort of illness they caught from the store or in transit from the store.

It would also help the experts on this site if you posted their conditions, lighting, temperature and humidity, tank size, what plants you have in the tank, what you're feeding your white's and anything else that has changed since your frogs have become sick.

Also, you can check out the frog first aid section written by Paul Rust, he's very knowledgeable about frog illness and how to treat them, along with Kurt, John, and Cheri, who are also very knowledgeable about tree frogs. These guys have helped me in the past with my White's, who just recently got over an infection. Here's a link to the frog first aid section if you can't find it:

http://www.frogforum.net/care-articl...first-aid.html

And everyone will tell you that if you're truly worried you should find a herp vet as fast as you can and take your frog in, maybe both of the one's left alive just in case they both have it. But please separate your sick frog from your healthy frog as fast as you can so this illness doesn't spread, it sounds to me like your frog could have caught this from the dead female that was left in the tank.

Keep in mind I am no expert I have no idea what your frog could have, I just wanted to post these steps for you so you can figure out what's wrong with your frog as soon as possible.

I hope he gets well, please keep this thread updated.

[Purrdoc]

I really recommend people look on the ARAV website (Association of Reptile and Amphibian Veterinarians) to find a local vet who can help diagnose and treat their frogs. If nothing else, taking the body in after the frog has passed to have it examined can help find a cause of death. There are many specialists who look at tissue samples of exotic animals for this purpose. Of course, there is going to be an expense to this, but it can often be well worth it if you have more than one amphibian (and, well, who of us doesn't!) to save others in the group or to keep us from transmitting things to future pets. If you can't find a vet close enough who will treat frogs, any vet can send in tissue samples on deceased frogs to a lab for you. Bring the frog in cold (not frozen), describe the signs (even if it is acute death) and ask for the frog to be sent to their lab for necropsy. Especially with ranavirus and chytrid hanging over our heads, we need to be proactive. If they ask you for what tissues you want (and to save costs), tell them kidney, liver, heart, and lung.

Another option, if you do not have a vet close enough, is if you have a zoo that is close by. Get in touch with the veterinarian for that zoo (smaller zoos often have a vet that comes in 1-2 days a week, sometimes a local vet, sometimes from farther away) and establish a relationship. They will often be more than willing to help you if you explain your situation- you have frogs and no one to treat them.

I hope this can help. There are not many, but there are vets out there who truly love these animals like we do and want to try and do what is right for them.