Possible ACF bloat

[Jenste]

It hasn't happened yet, but those fish are not suitable tank mates for your frog and could end up killing it.

Do not do the bath in the 10 gallon, keep this as a quarantine tank. Use a different container for the bath. Right now your frog needs fresh fresh fresh water, pick up a conditioner and do multiple water changes and use always fresh water in the bath.

[AlexLbk]

It hasn't happened yet, but those fish are not suitable tank mates for your frog and could end up killing it.

Do not do the bath in the 10 gallon, keep this as a quarantine tank. Use a different container for the bath. Right now your frog needs fresh fresh fresh water, pick up a conditioner and do multiple water changes and use always fresh water in the bath.

Stingray would be the only possible threat, but she's more interested in trying to eat fish (and already succeeded with a one platy already, which I expected) - she has no interest in the frog beyond pushing him around the tank when he's in the way.
Why would I condition RO water? What can the conditioner possibly do except fouling it up?

[Jenste]

if you have lots of spare RO water around then by all means use it - I was stressing not to use water already in the 105 gallon as to help treat your frog you want the freshest water possible in both the bath and QT tank.

You have edited the response I was referring to - - you had originally said "I have a hospital tank and also have epsom salt. I don't use conditioners as I only use reconstituted RO/DI water. Considering it's a bath, should I go for the full 10g or just use my "bath" tank, which is 1/2g and I can then use the display tank water?"

You edited out the part about using the display tank water - - this is where I was stressing that fresher water would be much more helpful, not water taken from your tank.

[AlexLbk]

I misread the first post, hence the response edit. Thanks for your advice.
RO is brewing now, a few more gallons left.
On a related subject ACF just stole a nightcrawler from the baby stingray and swallowed it in a second, so he's eating.

[Jenste]

It is good that he is eating - but to be honest the stingrays are not the only risk.

Blood parrot cichlids, elephant nose, ghost knives, kissing gouramis, and rainbow sharks are ALL semi-aggressive fish. When put with a creature who is not exactly semi-aggressive but acts more out of filling its gut then defending territory, you are asking for trouble.

Just because the frog has been lucky so far, does not mean it will continue to do so. Fish increase in aggression as they age - you could just be waiting for the inevitable unfortunately.

The bloat could be indicating a stressed, unhappy, unhealthy frog.

[xxianxx]

What temp do you keep your tank at? ACF like 20-24c

[AlexLbk]

What temp do you keep your tank at? ACF like 20-24c

the temp is 78F (25.5C). Can't keep it any lower since the house is at 77 during the summer (not it's not an issue now, but I don't want the temperature jumping) and between the pumps ( I have 3 and lights (they are LED, but still produce heat) I have to run 2 surface fans just to keep the water at that temperature. The chiller is an alternative, but I'm can't justify it for freshwater.

[AlexLbk]

Well, since we are on the subject of extreme stress and cohabitation with aggressive species - all the things that should have killed me long ago, I discussed this with a vet. We took a blood sample and awaiting analysis. We also did discuss the water changes over the past week and it turns out that the bloat might have been an osmotic reaction to lower GH caused by a several 25% water changes. Let's see what blood test shows, but the good news is that he's gotten less swollen tonight, so there might be a light in the end of the tunnel. I have decided to leave him alone for now and monitor.
Please do not get offended, but I always prefer scientific explanations as opposed to emotions and perceived aggression. If I find out more or if the condition changes I will let you know.