Possible ACF bloat

[AlexLbk]

I have had my ACF for about a year. He lives with the rest of my fish in a 105g custom with a 48g sump.
He was fine 3 days ago, but last night I noticed that he got really bloated and it looks liquid. It's hard to say whether he ate something (like the piece of squid that my hystrix left around last night), but it doesn't look right. Otherwise he seems ok, spending time in the plants or laying on the substrate.
Beyond aspiration, which I'd like to avoid, does anyone have any other suggestions or any experience dealing with this?

Thanks in advance.

[Jenste]

I would set up another tank - about 10+ gallons for the frog and use a tupperware to administer salt baths.

Use Epsom salt, 1/2 TEAspoon per gallon of water. Remember to treat with conditioner like you do for your tank during water changes. Leave the frog in the bath for up to one hour daily.

Put the frog in the QT (10 + gallon tank mentioned earlier). Do not put the salt bath water in the tank.


Pictures would help.
Bloat can often be fatal if brought on by environmental conditions.

What type of fish do you have in the tank?
How long has it been set up?
Is the filter cycled?
What are your current readings for ammonia, nitrite and nitrate?
What type of substrate do you use?
What do you feed the frog?
What size is your frog?

Again, pictures are very helpful

[AlexLbk]

I have a hospital tank and also have epsom salt. I don't use conditioners as I only use reconstituted RO/DI water.

What type of fish do you have in the tank? 2 hystrix stingrays (female is larger ~7'', male is a baby), 2 blood parrots, 1 ghost knife, 2 kissing gouramis, 1 elephant nose, 1 rainbow shark, 2 pictus catfish.
How long has it been set up? about a year
Is the filter cycled? Yes
What are your current readings for ammonia, nitrite and nitrate? 0,0,5
What type of substrate do you use? gravel, medium size - not sharp
What do you feed the frog? he rarely gets his own food anymore as he keeps on stealing stuff from others (frozen bloodworms, earthworms, live black worms and yesterday - a piece of squid. He never ate the pellets, no matter how many time I tried.
What size is your frog? about 3''

Again, pictures are very helpful[/QUOTE]

[Jenste]

It hasn't happened yet, but those fish are not suitable tank mates for your frog and could end up killing it.

Do not do the bath in the 10 gallon, keep this as a quarantine tank. Use a different container for the bath. Right now your frog needs fresh fresh fresh water, pick up a conditioner and do multiple water changes and use always fresh water in the bath.

[AlexLbk]

It hasn't happened yet, but those fish are not suitable tank mates for your frog and could end up killing it.

Do not do the bath in the 10 gallon, keep this as a quarantine tank. Use a different container for the bath. Right now your frog needs fresh fresh fresh water, pick up a conditioner and do multiple water changes and use always fresh water in the bath.

Stingray would be the only possible threat, but she's more interested in trying to eat fish (and already succeeded with a one platy already, which I expected) - she has no interest in the frog beyond pushing him around the tank when he's in the way.
Why would I condition RO water? What can the conditioner possibly do except fouling it up?

[Jenste]

if you have lots of spare RO water around then by all means use it - I was stressing not to use water already in the 105 gallon as to help treat your frog you want the freshest water possible in both the bath and QT tank.

You have edited the response I was referring to - - you had originally said "I have a hospital tank and also have epsom salt. I don't use conditioners as I only use reconstituted RO/DI water. Considering it's a bath, should I go for the full 10g or just use my "bath" tank, which is 1/2g and I can then use the display tank water?"

You edited out the part about using the display tank water - - this is where I was stressing that fresher water would be much more helpful, not water taken from your tank.