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    Shanny
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    If you don't have honey, u can always sprinkle a little sugar into his water dish. I did this for my retf when he had a prolapse and it really helped him thru the night until I could take him into the vet the next day.
    I didn't have a vet set up either, I just did a quick search online for vets that dealt with exotics and luckily I found one that was a 5 minute drive down the road I know what u mean, I felt funny bringing my frog in to the vet, but was very happy that I did. I was broke at the time also, but I only ended up paying $54.00 for them to fix his prolapse and put a stitch in his butt haha.. Which he ended up pulling out before the week was up. But now he is as good as ever!!

    And like everyone else has said, u really should find a bigger tank for your friends. I've been doing searches on craigslist.org and I find really nice and cheap tanks or fish aquariums that people are selling all the time. I have two semi-adult red eye tree frogs in a 29 gal tank right now and it works out well, it used to be a fish tank before I converted it. But I have been wanting to get one with doors on front, its just more convenient.
    Since you have three tho, u should have at least a 30 gal.

    And u should definitely get rid of that substrate! I use moss and haven't had any problems with it.
    When I keep a sick frog or my babies, I just got a week ago, separate from my adults, I use moist paper towel on the bottom... This way u can monitor pretty much whatever goes on and make sure they are safe from whatever might have caused the problem when they were living in the tank.

    Well I really hope he gets better, but I do think it would be very smart to go see a vet before its too late.

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    What water are you using if you are using tap water then that could be your problem as it contains heavy metals which can kill frogs.

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    Shanny
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    Yes the water could be an issue. Are you changing it everyday? Spring water is usually best.
    Also, if your frogs are wild caught, this can cause a lot of problems as well. I always make sure I get captive bread frogs.
    Wild caught animals could already have issues that don't appear until later, so u would never suspect anything was wrong when u get them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shanny View Post
    Yes the water could be an issue. Are you changing it everyday? Spring water is usually best.
    Also, if your frogs are wild caught, this can cause a lot of problems as well. I always make sure I get captive bread frogs.
    Wild caught animals could already have issues that don't appear until later, so u would never suspect anything was wrong when u get them.
    Actually, according to some studies/experiments by tgampper , spring bottled isn't always the best. According to him, treated tap water is usually better. However, I can't find the thread right now, since I'm at a lesson right now, so don't quote me on that one... But I'm pretty sure that's what he said. Anyway, I'll try to find the thread later on.
    However, I do agree that untreated tap water is potentiality dangerous and should always be avoided.

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    Shanny
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    That great to know ViperJr... Although I use both treated tap water and Sping water at times. I mostly use the treated tap in my vivarium, because obviously it's a never ending supply. I do have spring water in my baby RETF's soaking dish tho.

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    I don't use non treated tap. I treat my tap water. I change the water when I notice it getting dirty. And As far as flushing a frog, Don't compare people to frogs..okay. Frogs are just animals not people. poeple are above frog. It is an insult to intelligence to compare a person to a dumb frog. and no I wouldn't really want to be flushed..but when I'm died I wouldn't really know the defference. sorry I didn't reply sooner....I have been busy lately. anyway...today my frog prolapsed. he throw up something. and now he is fine. I have taken the bark out and I am working on modifying the tank. I will post pictures when I'm done.

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    [QUOTE=mh530;88457] Don't compare people to frogs..okay. Frogs are just animals not people. poeple are above frog. It is an insult to intelligence to compare a person to a dumb frog.QUOTE]

    Humans are not above frogs. Humans are usurpers of nature. Every where we go we destroy the planet, just by sitting here at my computer I am polluting. We dig up the land burn fossil fuels tear down forests all for greed in the pursuit to be above other humans. Humans are the lowest of the low in the animal kingdom, when was the last time you saw a frog cause an oil spill in the middle of the sea or drop a bomb on each other. Everything we do destroys the planet. If frogs are so dumb how come we know virtualy nothing about some species and yet they get on with their lives without having to go to school and be taught how to live or destroy the planet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mh530 View Post
    ...And As far as flushing a frog, Don't compare people to frogs..okay...
    Using the word "flushing" to dispose of a dead pet suggests that you view it as, well, disposable. That's what people will read into it whether that's how you feel or not.

    Quote Originally Posted by mh530 View Post
    ...today my frog prolapsed. he throw up something. and now he is fine. I have taken the bark out and I am working on modifying the tank. I will post pictures when I'm done.
    What do you mean he "prolapsed" and now is fine? What exactly happened?


    Are you gutloading your crickets prior to feeding? Dusting them?

    I also agree that they need a larger tank. 10 gallons will be way too small for 3 tree frogs, and too small for even one adult.

    You'll also find most people suggest not mixing species of frogs in the same tank, which I gather from your posts is what you have done. All frogs secrete some level of toxin as self defense, and this can build up in confined quarters and cause problems, even if the frogs can be found next to each other in the wild (extreme example is the pickerel frog, Rana palustris, which will kill off just about anything you put in the same water bucket even though they were side by side in a pond a few minutes earlier). I've seen more than one person say they've kept grays and greens successfully together over the years, but always in much roomier conditions so this isn't something I'd rule out as a potential issue.

    Best of luck in any case.

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    artes
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    People are animals just like any other animal. Just because we can make tools and have thumbs doesn't make us "better" than other animals. And no, it would be an insult to intelligence to compare a dumb person to a frog.

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