I no its got to start somewhere, I just think that with the high risk our frogs are in at this day and age I would think people would be more careful. We are not able to take our NZ native Frogs from the wild or keep them in captivity as its illegal with out a permit. I think it should also apply to our introduced species as their numbers in the wild are reducing as well. How are the frog species faring where you are Kurt? Do you have declines in your Frog species in the wild?