Yikes! I feel totally comfortable messing with his mouth to force feed him after seeing those pics! ;-)
Yikes! I feel totally comfortable messing with his mouth to force feed him after seeing those pics! ;-)
They have some chompers on them huh Lol! Don't worry as long as your frog isn't very aggressive and you're gentle with him/her you won't be bitten unless by accident.
I'm just going to follow 'Grif' around the forum and learn as much as possible !
I don't keep Pacs but this is really great information.
Thanks everyone.
Current Collection
Dendrobates leucomelas - standard morph
Dendrobates auratus “Costa Rican Green Black"
Dendrobates auratus "Pena Blanca"
Dendrobates tinctorius “New River”
Dendrobates tinctorius "Green Sipaliwini"
Dendrobates tinctorius “Powder Blue"
Dendrobates tinctorius "French Guiana Dwarf Cobalt"
Phyllobates terribilis “Mint”
Phyllobates terribilis "Orange"
Phyllobates bicolor "Uraba"
Oophaga pumilio "Black Jeans"
Oophaga pumilio "Isla Popa"
Oophaga pumilio "Bastimentos"
Oophaga pumilio “Mimbitimbi”
Oophaga pumilio "Rio Colubre"
Oophaga pumilio "Red Frog Beach”
Oophaga pumilio "Rio Branco"
Oophaga pumilio “Valle del Rey”
Oophaga pumilio "BriBri"
Oophaga pumilio "El Dorado"
Oophaga pumilio "Cristobal"
Oophaga pumilio "Rambala"
Oophaga “Vicentei” (blue)
Oophaga sylvatica "Paru"
Oophaga sylvatica "Pata Blanca"
Oophaga histrionica “Redhead”
Oophaga histrionica "Blue"
Oophaga lehmanni "Red"
Oophaga histrionica "Tado"
Ranitomeya variabilis "Southern"
Ranitomeya imitator "Varadero"
Ranitomeya sirensis "Lower Ucayali"
Ranitomeya vanzolinii
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Aaaawww.....anything that has a mouth can bite....even if it's gumming! LOL
So far we have only been nailed by females (they tend to be easily ticked off!)
The most damage either of us has gotten is some scraped skin, nothing horrifically gouged or bleeding profusely.
Your frog will get used to being handled too, so the danger of being bitten hard diminishes with time.
I'm sure you will do fine!
Day 3 of the booster: Pocket (I did not name him!) ate a meal worm!! I had my tongs out and got a meal worm, I showed him and he opened his mouth, I shoved it in there and he ate! I then gave him the booster but I was kind of going in from the side and he has a BIG mouth, lol and a lot came out of the side. I opened him up and gave him 1/2 another dose. I tried with another meal worm and he spit it out and thrashed around... I tried one more time....he kept it in his mouth, spit it out, threw another fit and I decided that I needed to leave him alone.I gave him fresh water, upped his temperature and covered up the viv so he can de-stress again. He's currently sitting in his fresh water. If I look in there he turns around, lol. Tomorrow, I'm going to give him some crickets and the booster. I'm going to try to post some pics of him that I took before he ate today. He still doesn't look so hot. :-(
Meet Pocket!
Awe, what a little cutie!! He is definitely undersized for his age. But it sounds like he packs quite the attitude in that little body! It can take them a long time to recover and rebuild their fat stores. A fat cell will never completely go away once it has been developed, but if it has been depleted it takes awhile to build it back up. When Grif was sick and we had to force feed her it was over two months before she looked "healthy" again (which in pacman terms means chubby). It can be hard to tell exactly how much of a frog's mass is fat and how much is water. Most of the time when you see a pac bloated looking it is due to water weight. Keep up what you are doing. Get those calories and vitamins in him. He needs the nourishment. Keep a close eye on him, but it sounds like he will be fine. Again, he is adorable!
Yes, he has an attitude! I fed him 1.5 doses of the booster this evening. I gave him three wax worms and I was thinking he was eating them.... then, He opened his mouth and spit them all out! SIGH. I ended up getting him to eat 1.5 and left him alone. I came back a few hours and got him to eat one more. I also switched around around his bowls and gave him one that might let him get in and out easier. He has a lot more energy. He has started to push my tongs and syringe away.... with his front arms and back legs! His eyes look brighter I'm hopeful. I'm still having problems keeping his temperature up. When I moved him from his feeding bowl to soaking bowl I used my bare hands since I was out of gloves and he was cold to the touch.I have a sticky heater on the side and I have put a heating pad on the bottom and side and wrapped it in a towl to insulate. Any other ideas to help with the humidity and heat? Also, he has not pooped yet. He doesn't leave his bowl so I would know if he did... I started to force feed 4 days ago and he had a few solids yesterday and today. I should see that soon, right?
Thanks again for all the help!
Here is Pocket's "hospital" tank. LoL I hope he gets better soon! I had to eat dinner the other day standing up since he's on my dining room chair! Ah, the things we do for our lil friends! Also, I'm attaching a pic of one of my American Green Frogs... That way you can see that I have at least ONE healthy frog, lol. That is my little Charlotte. She is the bully of my tank of greens.She likes to steal favorite corners of the tank....and, forget walking AROUND one of the other frogs.... no way, she will just step on them!
She's funny though!
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You shouldn't place a heat pad on the bottom incase he/she tries to burrow. They burrow to cool off and to sleep. If he/she felt too hot and burrowed over the pad he/she wouldn't understand why he/she couldn't cool off. Even though you have a sharp eye on him/her and don't see him leaving his dish doesn't mean he won't. When he is healthy it would be good to keep the pads on the sides. You're doing good with Pocket. He/she will take a little longer to fully digest and pass the food. The booster isn't a solid so it would take a lot to accumulate into a solid. The meal worms take a while because their exoskeleton cannot be digested by the frog and are natorious for causing impaction. Too many is bad. Crickets would be better or earth worms. Wax worms are very high in fat but have no nutritional value. Too many of those are bad as well. You can actually buy a cat/dog food that is canned and formulated for malnurished cats and dogs. You have to make sure is a solid not shredded or chopped. These kinds can be sucked up in a seringe and fed to your frog. If you want to go that route. This way you know he/she is getting plenty of solids. It could take your frog up to a week and a half to poop since he/she was pretty much completely empty. Keep up the good work. Getting a feeding responce from him/her is good. Also Charlotte looks very nice and yes very healthy.
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