Update on Motto Motto

[Sublime]

You could get confirmation from a exotic veterinarian (or someone else who has found this effective) to go ahead and pick up Flagyl (Metronidazole) in the oral liquid form and treat your frog for an appetite problem. Don't do the multivitamin that much, more than enough will lead to toxicity quickly. Calcium w/ d3 you don't have to worry about as much - just check to see that your brand doesn't contain high amounts of d3 in it as that is not needed. Calcium is very hard to overdose if you follow a regime.

The temperature at night stays the same as the daytime, even after the daylight goes off and there's only night time viewing?

[vivalabam]

The lip deformity shouldn't stop him eating, one of mine is a grade B so his lip doesn't sit right, he still eats like a trooper!

I just leave crickets in with him over night and they are usually gone by morning.

[DirtyBird]

[DirtyBird]

The night time temps are about 78-79, day time is about 83-84. The pics make his lights look way brighter than they really are

[DirtyBird]

The night time temps are about 78-79, day time is about 83-84. The pics make his lights look way brighter than they really are

[DirtyBird]

Ive also noticed that when he gets his fill of food, his left side gets hard (from the worms) but his right side stays squishy. Is that normal? You can see how the left side gets push out in the pics

[GrifTheGreat]

Ive also noticed that when he gets his fill of food, his left side gets hard (from the worms) but his right side stays squishy. Is that normal? You can see how the left side gets push out in the pics

Yes its normal for the left side to push out and feel hard when he/she is full. Their stomach is on the left. When they have to poop their right side twards the rear will feel hard. Its normal. I do believe your frog is suffering from MBD. Try to keep giving the calcium with D3 every other feeding. As long as when you force feed your frog poops every 5 to 6 days. That is if you are force feeding every day. Be very gentle as the bones may break easily until the bones are hardened. The distortion of his/her face and limbs may not ever correct itself. It is very sad. Your frog has had a very rough life until he/she came to you. You are doing your best. Only give the multivitamin once a week. You don't want to cause your frog tox out. Toxing out is very bad and usually results in death. I hope he/she recovers soon.

Also your daytime and night time temps are fine. Humidity should be 70 to 80%. If your frog has trouble moving around and supporting itself keep the water dish a little more shallow as your frog might get in and have trouble getting out. Since it will have trouble supporting itself it may drown if it can't keep its head up and with its mouth like that it doesn't seal on the upper jaw and water can get in the mouth. You don't want him/her to drown so watch carefully.

[DirtyBird]

Yea I have a feeling he will be handicapped the rest of his life. The best I'm getting my hopes up for is that he will someday eat on his own. That bottom jaw just really bothers me, cause looking at the picture when I got him he didnt have that. Like he developed it. I try dusting the multi vit, but it usually is all off the worm by the time he gets in down, so he is not getting too much of that. Like when I do dust with the vits, Ill do 1 or 2 out of the 6-7 butterworms, and of those two, most is rubbed off before he gets it. I am ritualistic with the calcium/d3 every worm, every other feeding, cause I was always paranoid about the MBD. I feel really bad that there isn't anything else I can do to make him better and healthy...

[GrifTheGreat]

Yea I have a feeling he will be handicapped the rest of his life. The best I'm getting my hopes up for is that he will someday eat on his own. That bottom jaw just really bothers me, cause looking at the picture when I got him he didnt have that. Like he developed it. I try dusting the multi vit, but it usually is all off the worm by the time he gets in down, so he is not getting too much of that. Like when I do dust with the vits, Ill do 1 or 2 out of the 6-7 butterworms, and of those two, most is rubbed off before he gets it. I am ritualistic with the calcium/d3 every worm, every other feeding, cause I was always paranoid about the MBD. I feel really bad that there isn't anything else I can do to make him better and healthy...

It is heartbreaking but I don't believe that it was by any means your fault. He/she was probably not getting what he/she needed as a baby. Poor husbandry performed by chain stores like petsmart/petco/ect is not uncommon and this is the result. Atleast he/she is in a loving home now and is being cared for well. Butterworms aren't very nutritious at all. You should feed chunks of night crawlers/red wigglers/hornworms. These food items are soft easy to digest and nutritious. Plus night crawlers and red wigglers are sticky and the calcium and vitamin dust will stick right to them and is not easy to rub off. These are much better for your frog and will help with recovery.