Paper towel substrate

[dsmalex97]

You inspired me lol

I wasn't happy with the quality of the water so I took him out of the setup he was in. He seems to be liking it so far. Plopped himself under the plants and hasn't moved lol

I plan on doing this until he starts putting on some decent weight. Keeping humidity good so far too. The trick is to just use a bunch of paper towel rather then just a layer. I also love not having to be worried about him getting impacted.

[MonsterPyxie]

You inspired me lol

I wasn't happy with the quality of the water so I took him out of the setup he was in. He seems to be liking it so far. Plopped himself under the plants and hasn't moved lol

I plan on doing this until he starts putting on some decent weight. Keeping humidity good so far too. The trick is to just use a bunch of paper towel rather then just a layer. I also love not having to be worried about him getting impacted.

my only real problem with this is no padding for the frog. Dogs when forced to sleep on hard floors grow callus / big knob's on there joints and stuff from the hard floor, and there built more robust then a soft squishy fog.

[flybyferns]

Greenhorn,

He looks very comfy!
These are good discussions.
Maybe we could start a 'paper towel substrate' craze?

They do get soft when they are wet. How about a thicker layer in the area where he like to sit?

I sure use a lot of paper towel though. I 'm still on a search for a substitute.
My cotton batting experiment did not work-the crickets ate it.
I had a feeling they would. We'll see, I intend to keep trying.
Maybe some other fabric. I'm considering sewing mats-just the right size for the bottom that could be washed.
The great thing about the towels is that they hold quite a bit of water which is difficult to duplicate.

photo:
Paper towel substrate on the left and covered water on the right.
I just visited before the lights come on. I know exactly what they ate ( one little cricket left) and they are all up in the plants starting to snuggle in for the day.



Enjoy !
Lynn

[Jcal]

Interesting. My pac does like to burrow but i do get annoyed by coco fiber. I shook things up with my abfs and they love it. Maybe its time for a switch with my pac.

I think l will do alittle test with him:
Remove all substrate and have paper towel
Offer him a cup to burrow if so desired.
Offer him a bigger water dish.

After he shows me what he likes i will go from there.

[dsmalex97]

I think if you offer a large shallow pool with a few layers of paper towel, they'll be just fine. Just make sure to add lots of cover with plants, and maybe a background. I think my guy seems pretty comfortable actually lol. I have a three layers, and it's more then enough for comfort in my opinion. Let's keep in mind these are wild animals, and don't know what "comfort" even is...I can't see keeping them on paper towels detrimental to their health in the slightest. They don't have knobby elbows, and have a fat belly to keep them comfy haha. I personally think it's a good idea, and is working great for me.

[SludgeMunkey]

Personally, I dislike the paper towel method. First and foremost after working in the industry for a few years, I came to know a bit too much about paper and the paper making process. A bit of research on how the paper for paper towels is made will explain my worries here. My other big personal peeve against paper towel substrates is the absolutely stunning fungal growth wet paper toweling supports. I genereally only use paper toweling for short term and hospital enclosures.

But, these are just my personal opinions. I know of many folks that use them with success.

[dsmalex97]

Personally, I dislike the paper towel method. First and foremost after working in the industry for a few years, I came to know a bit too much about paper and the paper making process. A bit of research on how the paper for paper towels is made will explain my worries here. My other big personal peeve against paper towel substrates is the absolutely stunning fungal growth wet paper toweling supports. I genereally only use paper toweling for short term and hospital enclosures.

But, these are just my personal opinions. I know of many folks that use them with success.

Hmm, that's interesting. What happens in the paper making process, now you got me worried man lol