Pacman frog pulling some WEIRD STUFF.

[Sublime]

It could all be due to stress then. The climbing glass bit is a dead give away.

Mark, I have found that if & when we do need to force feed, we use an easily digestible item so that it goes through the frog's system fairly quickly and we can offer food soon after again......this has worked really well for us, it seems to me that if given a rodent when force fed, it takes quite a while to digest and then we have to force feed again.

We also have a Vet who specializes in reptiles & amphibians who agreed with our practices. Force feeding is something that experienced keepers practice but is often discouraged in first time keepers. At the very least, take the frog to an experienced vet to assist in the force feeding to help teach technique & tips......to help teach the proper way to perform the procedure. Just giving asked for advice & info.

Alright, I understand and respect your given advice. I just wanted to ask you a few questions though to clear some unclear information. How many earthworms would you have to feed to force feed to your frog to get them (per say) healthy and or back up to weight? In your experience, have you found that after the first force feed of earthworms that they eat - they tend to get their strength and appetite back? It just seems to me that, it would be more logical to give them more of a fulfilling meal that is nutritionally rich and contains some fat percentage. Even though as we are all aware, vertebrates are hard on frogs organs (specifically the kidney & liver) to an extent.

Also, how come you guys would have to force feed again after feeding it a mouse? George had a great testimonial; I don't know if you saw it, but his pacman was on his death bed (Skinny, weak) and he force fed it an injected mouse with the outcome of it saving his frogs life and bringing him back to health.

Take care,

Mark

PS: I'm trying to be constructive and not destructive, something John gave me advice on.

[GrifTheGreat]

Alright, I understand and respect your given advice. I just wanted to ask you a few questions though to clear some unclear information. How many earthworms would you have to feed to force feed to your frog to get them (per say) healthy and or back up to weight? In your experience, have you found that after the first force feed of earthworms that they eat - they tend to get their strength and appetite back? It just seems to me that, it would be more logical to give them more of a fulfilling meal that is nutritionally rich and contains some fat percentage. Even though as we are all aware, vertebrates are hard on frogs organs (specifically the kidney & liver) to an extent.

Also, how come you guys would have to force feed again after feeding it a mouse? George had a great testimonial; I don't know if you saw it, but his pacman was on his death bed (Skinny, weak) and he force fed it an injected mouse with the outcome of it saving his frogs life and bringing him back to health.

Take care,

Mark

PS: I'm trying to be constructive and not destructive, something John gave me advice on.

You better or he'll get his nanny hat on and come after you Lol!

Like I posted though. That was one frog. I had to force feed Grif 2 a week for 4 weeks and then she started eating on her own with a Hornworm which also is an easily digeted food not like mice. That should answer that question if she doesn't. Remember like their personalities their bodies are different as well. I fed her easily digested and already liked foods for a month before that to condition her digestive system. Think about that 2 per week for 4 weeks. With vitamins and calcium. Still took 2 months for her to recover. And she was also on her death bed.

I just don't think its good for an unexperienced frog owner to try this method of food item first. My opinion that's all.

[Sublime]

Alright, thanks for the information. That pretty much cleared it all up for me.

And no, I don't want John to get his nanny hat on next time because I'm sure it will be a ban and not a warning. Lol.

[GrifTheGreat]

Alright, thanks for the information. That pretty much cleared it all up for me.

And no, I don't want John to get his nanny hat on next time because I'm sure it will be a ban and not a warning. Lol.

Yeah I don't think you need a ban from the forum. I don't think I could get through the day without getting on here atleast once Lol! I'm on here way too much.

[Sublime]

I would go into a mental state of confusion if I missed a day being on here.

[Camden]

Whenever I force-fed him a fuzzy last night, he was doing fine. And is still doing fine. When should I feed him next?

[GrifTheGreat]

Whenever I force-fed him a fuzzy last night, he was doing fine. And is still doing fine. When should I feed him next?

You could wait a day if you like or force feed him a night crawler tomorrow at feeding time. Give a variety while force feeding as it will help a lot. I would use a night crawler or two this time. Try small meals each day. Skip a day due to the pinky as it will take a while to digest.