Quote Originally Posted by Greenhorn View Post
Grif I think we can agree on a lot of things. I don't have a problem with large chains, where would this hobby be without our pet stores? I also agree that animal cruelty is and always will be. The OP, and you, saw a frog that was being mistreated, purchased it, and may have even prevented it from dying. I have no doubt that you are both compassionate people. Furthermore, who's to say that a reputable breeder doesn't mistreat their animals? I apologize for coming off harsh. Just don't be disappointed when you find it's replacement living in the same conditions. I have a different opinion on the meaning of saving and rescuing an animal, I see this as adopting or purchasing an unwanted pet, not buying it from a pet store.

To the OP: forgive me, and nice frog :-)
Ofcourse you're forgiven and yes this hobby would definetly have problems if there weren't any chain stores like Petsmart/Petco and etc. I completely understand your opinion on saving a frog and 10 more taking its place. I know first hand because after I recued Loki a week later there was another in the same boat. This is when I said that's it and chewed the manager a new one. He was pretty surprised by my ferm tone as I did this and showed him the mistake as well as what the frog should have. I would say if the breeder treats them badly then they wouldn't be breeding for long as their losses would be far greater than their sales. As for the rescueing being just like adopting, it is exactly like that as when you adopt an animal there are exceedingly more than 10 that take its place.

Glad to have this discussion end this way.