Butterworms - yes or no

[kueluck]

Thanks for the input. There's a place in SC that has them 100/$17 and since I only have 4 critters to feed, for me that's pretty inexpensive, plus the site states that they can keep up to 6 months in the frig. They also have roaches 100/$5 but I just don't know if I can bring myself to bring them in the house on purpose. I'm just looking to add variety to their diet. At this point I feed crickets, earthworms, mealworms & waxworms. Plus the occational moth or house fly that makes it into the house that the cats don't get to.

[JeffreH]

Variety is always best, if you have no problem with the price then I'd go for it = )

I'd liken them to a waxworm whose a little less fatty and supercharged with a high calcium content; definitely a decent snack from time. As Nels D said, they certainly are pretty and most of my herps do enjoy them.

Something else you can try for more variety that is better accepted a staple feeder are things like Silkworms and Solider Grubs (often coined as phoenix worms or calci-worms). Both are fairly expensive, although silkworms may be one of the best feeders you can get your hands on when it comes to the nutritonal benefits we most often look at for herps. High calcium, extremely lean, and they also contain helpful enzymes that have benefits on the human cardiovascular system and breaking down arterail plaque. You can sometimes come across sample cups of either of these larvae at some shows; or they can be ordered online (places like Mulberry Farms - Silkworms and other premium feeder insects ). Not swaying you away from anything, just figured I'd include these in case you were unaware of them as a feeder.

As for roaches; I know they can be hard to accept into the house - But I assure you the species sold as feeders couldn't do anything harmful even if you wanted them to = ) What species is this place selling? Thats a good deal for roaches...

[kueluck]

The roaches are B. lateralis (a.k.a. Turkistan roach). I tried the phoenix worms and had a bad experience with that. They were coming out whole and still alive. I wasn't told you needed to poke them with a pin first. I found this out from the supplier thru Josh's. I've been looking for a place near NC for silkworms, just haven't found one yet, so thanks for the info. I just want to keep them healthy and happy.