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    kimmy
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    Quote Originally Posted by flybyferns View Post
    Kimmy,

    What is your frog's name?

    The photos that are posted at the start of this thread (at the bottom) look very dry to me. Don't let that paper dry out!
    Like Heather says, they like to soak down here. When using paper they flatten their bellies on the bottom to soak up water and get re-hydrated.
    I would get a real thick layer of paper( towels )in the bottom and dampen it really well ( sopping wet !) with spring water ( bottled water).
    Misting is okay as well- 2-3 times a day. Don't spray directly on your frog. Spray with distilled water ( which will not stain the glass of the enclosure)
    I would not worry about putting too many crickets in the enclosure at night if there is paper on the bottom.
    Extra crickets are better for now while he is little and / or stressed. Make dinner an "easy catch"
    Fee him well. The white bottom makes it easy for you to monitor the food intake for now-and to see what has been eaten by the next morning.
    Remove the uneaten crickets and replace with more each night. If he is little- he needs to eat every night.
    Keep a very shallow saucer in the enclosure filled w/ bottled water (1/2 inch or less) ( change it daily )

    Don't touch your frog unless it is absolutely necessary. ( if needed wash and rinse your hands well)
    You might cover three sides of the enclosure - the frog would feel safer.
    Keep the frog in complete darkeness at night.
    Develop a day/night cycle for him.

    Don't add another red eyed tree frog into the enclosure for at least 6 weeks- or longer.

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    night time --71-75 F
    humidity 70-80 %

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    Hi Lynn ,
    I haven't decided on a name yet but I'll let you know when I do

    I bought really thick kitchen towels today and this morning when I cleaned him out I put three layers in and soaked it really well .. I'm going to start using new substrate in about a week or so ...

    I have the two sides covered with black paper so he feels safer ... I've just bought a 13watt bulb for the tank which I'll put on tomorrow and I'm going to buy a timer too so I can have timed day/night cycle ..

    Thanks for the help

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    Has anybody seen this type of dark colouration under the legs, arms and side of belly before on a red eyed tree frog .. You can see it in the pictures I've put up, it's noticable when he's pressed up against the glass .. I haven't come across any pictures on line of this dark colour before but that's not to say it's uncommon ... If anybody thinks this looks unusual please let me know because I'm very worried about my new baby ..

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    Quote Originally Posted by kimmy View Post
    Has anybody seen this type of dark colouration under the legs, arms and side of belly before on a red eyed tree frog .. You can see it in the pictures I've put up, it's noticable when he's pressed up against the glass .. I haven't come across any pictures on line of this dark colour before but that's not to say it's uncommon ... If anybody thinks this looks unusual please let me know because I'm very worried about my new baby ..
    kimmy,
    There is really no rush to change the substrate. The paper towel is serving its purpose. Just keep it clean.
    Change it when he is sleeping so he is not disturbed.
    For now your able to monitor feeding and pooping more closely.

    Continue to include a shallow water dish-change water daily, as heather and I post earlier. ( bottled spring water- just rinse, dry w/ paper towel , no soap)

    Remember , put new crickets in each night before he wakes up. And remove uneaten food in the morning after he goes back to sleep.
    The uneaten crickets can just go back into the cricket keeper.

    cricket size: the cricket should fit between his eyes- smaller in better than larger if you are not sure. -----

    I'm afraid the belly photos are difficult to make out.
    However the other - top view- he looks good!
    One of my red eyes have a bit of darker coloration around the belly.
    If he happens to be on the glass - I'll get a pic and post it.
    We can compare.

    Maybe you could get another pic of the belly some point, with out waking him.
    I use a flashlight at night for pics.

    How long is he? snout to bum

    Is he pooping ?

    Lynn
    Current Collection
    Dendrobates leucomelas - standard morph
    Dendrobates auratus “Costa Rican Green Black"
    Dendrobates auratus "Pena Blanca"
    Dendrobates tinctorius “New River”
    Dendrobates tinctorius "Green Sipaliwini"
    Dendrobates tinctorius “Powder Blue"
    Dendrobates tinctorius "French Guiana Dwarf Cobalt"

    Phyllobates terribilis “Mint”
    Phyllobates terribilis "Orange"
    Phyllobates bicolor "Uraba"

    Oophaga pumilio "Black Jeans"
    Oophaga pumilio "Isla Popa"
    Oophaga pumilio "Bastimentos"
    Oophaga pumilio “Mimbitimbi”
    Oophaga pumilio "Rio Colubre"
    Oophaga pumilio "Red Frog Beach”
    Oophaga pumilio "Rio Branco"
    Oophaga pumilio “Valle del Rey”
    Oophaga pumilio "BriBri"
    Oophaga pumilio "El Dorado"
    Oophaga pumilio "Cristobal"
    Oophaga pumilio "Rambala"

    Oophaga “Vicentei” (blue)

    Oophaga sylvatica "Paru"
    Oophaga sylvatica "Pata Blanca"
    Oophaga histrionica “Redhead”
    Oophaga histrionica "Blue"
    Oophaga lehmanni "Red"
    Oophaga histrionica "Tado"

    Ranitomeya variabilis "Southern"
    Ranitomeya imitator "Varadero"
    Ranitomeya sirensis "Lower Ucayali"
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    kimmy,

    Let's compare!

    I just took these 2 pics -2 different red eyed tree frogs that are sleeping on the glass today.
    Notice the color around the legs. Is this similar to what you are seeing?
    They push themselves against the glass. The glass smushes ( is that a word?) their skin .

    I think you can enlarge these pics -below






    Let me know
    Hopes this helps.
    Lynn
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    Current Collection
    Dendrobates leucomelas - standard morph
    Dendrobates auratus “Costa Rican Green Black"
    Dendrobates auratus "Pena Blanca"
    Dendrobates tinctorius “New River”
    Dendrobates tinctorius "Green Sipaliwini"
    Dendrobates tinctorius “Powder Blue"
    Dendrobates tinctorius "French Guiana Dwarf Cobalt"

    Phyllobates terribilis “Mint”
    Phyllobates terribilis "Orange"
    Phyllobates bicolor "Uraba"

    Oophaga pumilio "Black Jeans"
    Oophaga pumilio "Isla Popa"
    Oophaga pumilio "Bastimentos"
    Oophaga pumilio “Mimbitimbi”
    Oophaga pumilio "Rio Colubre"
    Oophaga pumilio "Red Frog Beach”
    Oophaga pumilio "Rio Branco"
    Oophaga pumilio “Valle del Rey”
    Oophaga pumilio "BriBri"
    Oophaga pumilio "El Dorado"
    Oophaga pumilio "Cristobal"
    Oophaga pumilio "Rambala"

    Oophaga “Vicentei” (blue)

    Oophaga sylvatica "Paru"
    Oophaga sylvatica "Pata Blanca"
    Oophaga histrionica “Redhead”
    Oophaga histrionica "Blue"
    Oophaga lehmanni "Red"
    Oophaga histrionica "Tado"

    Ranitomeya variabilis "Southern"
    Ranitomeya imitator "Varadero"
    Ranitomeya sirensis "Lower Ucayali"
    Ranitomeya vanzolinii

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    Quote Originally Posted by flybyferns View Post
    kimmy,

    Let's compare!

    I just took these 2 pics -2 different red eyed tree frogs that are sleeping on the glass today.
    Notice the color around the legs. Is this similar to what you are seeing?
    They push themselves against the glass. The glass smushes ( is that a word?) their skin .

    I think you can enlarge these pics -below






    Let me know
    Hopes this helps.
    Lynn
    Yours seem to be a little lighter in colour to my guy but I'll post better pictures
    Thanks for putting your's up .. I love your little guy he's so sweet

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    kimmy
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    Quote Originally Posted by flybyferns View Post
    kimmy,
    There is really no rush to change the substrate. The paper towel is serving its purpose. Just keep it clean.
    Change it when he is sleeping so he is not disturbed.
    For now your able to monitor feeding and pooping more closely.

    Continue to include a shallow water dish-change water daily, as heather and I post earlier. ( bottled spring water- just rinse, dry w/ paper towel , no soap)

    Remember , put new crickets in each night before he wakes up. And remove uneaten food in the morning after he goes back to sleep.
    The uneaten crickets can just go back into the cricket keeper.

    cricket size: the cricket should fit between his eyes- smaller in better than larger if you are not sure. -----

    I'm afraid the belly photos are difficult to make out.
    However the other - top view- he looks good!
    One of my red eyes have a bit of darker coloration around the belly.
    If he happens to be on the glass - I'll get a pic and post it.
    We can compare.

    Maybe you could get another pic of the belly some point, with out waking him.
    I use a flashlight at night for pics.

    How long is he? snout to bum

    Is he pooping ?

    Lynn
    I've bought some good kitchen towels and have changed out the tank this morning while he was asleep .. I put down 4 layers of paper and soaked it really well .. I washed down the tank with some bottled water as well 'cause it had gotten quite dirty ..

    When I woke up this morning I noticed a really big poo on the side of his water dish which is a really good sign so now I know there's nothing wrong there ...

    The crickets I've been feeding him are quite small, I've been putting about 10 into the tank and he's been eating about 7/8 so that's good too ..

    I took some more pictures this morning after I put the light into his tank which I'll upload now

    He was very small when I got him but now I've noticed he got a little bigger .. I'd say he's about an inch in length

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    Yeah he needs more plants to make him feel comfortable and safe.
    I see u said u bought some plants, those are perfect.. But instead of changing to substrate right away, you could always rinse the plant really well and leave it in the pot and just sit the pot in your tank on the paper towel. Then once u feel he's in the clear you can change to the substrate and plant it in the ground.
    Also, I have store bought plants and vines, but I have also went outside and found sticks to put in my viv. All you have to do is rinse them real well, then put them in the oven for 30 minutes on 350 degrees. Obviously u would let them cool after, but my red eyes love them, I have one that goes almost all the way across and then I have a fake vine intertwined around it to utilize more climbing space.
    Sounds like your doing an awesome job so far though

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    kimmy
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shanny View Post
    Yeah he needs more plants to make him feel comfortable and safe.
    I see u said u bought some plants, those are perfect.. But instead of changing to substrate right away, you could always rinse the plant really well and leave it in the pot and just sit the pot in your tank on the paper towel. Then once u feel he's in the clear you can change to the substrate and plant it in the ground.
    Also, I have store bought plants and vines, but I have also went outside and found sticks to put in my viv. All you have to do is rinse them real well, then put them in the oven for 30 minutes on 350 degrees. Obviously u would let them cool after, but my red eyes love them, I have one that goes almost all the way across and then I have a fake vine intertwined around it to utilize more climbing space.
    Sounds like your doing an awesome job so far though
    Hi,

    I bought a large silk ficus and now I have that one in the tank .. He seems to be a little more comfortable now, he's moving around a lot at night time and he sits and waits at the door for me to come and feed him ..
    I'm changing the substrate in the next week, I'm buying a new tank for him, the same size, and getting it prepared this week before I put him into it, I have several bromiliads there but I'm unsure as to whether they're big enough for him to hide in, my boyfriend has 2 dart frogs and he recently put bromiliads into his tank and his frogs absolutely love them and stay inside the leaves for the best part of the day ...
    I think if I change the substrate and make his tank more like his natural environment he'll be a lot happier because right now I just have 2 plants and some paper towels in his tank ...
    The sticks from outside seem like a good idea, what kind of wood/tree would I be looking for, I live sort of in the countryside so finding sticks wont be a problem ...


    Thanks for your reply and I'll keep you updated ...
    More pics on the way in the next few weeks of his new set-up ...

    Oh and by the way , I've named him Yoshi!!

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