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    Quote Originally Posted by Kimmy
    Thanks , do you know if there is any supplement specifically for the red eyed tree frogs?
    I don't know if there's anything made especially for tree frogs, but Zoo med have a good calcium/D3 supplement. Repashy also makes a good calcium/d3, which is called Repashy SuperCal (I think...). However, I'm not saying that Nutrobal is bad. I'm just saying that it might be less than optimal since it's designed for tortoises, which are omnivores.

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    I'm getting more leaves and another vine over the weekend
    Good! It can't be stressed enough how important it is to have a proper setup. When keeping red eyes, I would say that 90% (of course, it's just a number that really doesn't mean anything, since I can't actually prove anything scientifically) of the frogs well-being is having a good terrarium. If you want some inspiration, have a look at some of our members tanks. I would recommend Bshmerlie (Cheri) or DonLisk, for example.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ViperJr View Post
    I don't know if there's anything made especially for tree frogs, but Zoo med have a good calcium/D3 supplement. Repashy also makes a good calcium/d3, which is called Repashy SuperCal (I think...). However, I'm not saying that Nutrobal is bad. I'm just saying that it might be less than optimal since it's designed for tortoises, which are omnivores.
    Thanks , I'll check those out, I want the best for my little guy


    Good! It can't be stressed enough how important it is to have a proper setup. When keeping red eyes, I would say that 90% (of course, it's just a number that really doesn't mean anything, since I can't actually prove anything scientifically) of the frogs well-being is having a good terrarium. If you want some inspiration, have a look at some of our members tanks. I would recommend Bshmerlie (Cheri) or DonLisk, for example.
    I was told to wait at least a month before putting in too much and he's been out of the shop over a month now so do you think he's still too young to use orchid bark, cocoa soil and sphagnum moss as a substrate?

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    All mixed together or layers or seperate? Sphagnum is generally bad for froggies because it can cause impaction, as well as orchid bark. Mixed together or layers I think would work fine though. Sphagnum and coco fiber are great humidity retainers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Badger View Post
    All mixed together or layers or seperate? Sphagnum is generally bad for froggies because it can cause impaction, as well as orchid bark. Mixed together or layers I think would work fine though. Sphagnum and coco fiber are great humidity retainers
    I'll probably go with layers and give the frog places to his and more places to climb Thanks

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    Kimmy,

    What is your frog's name?

    The photos that are posted at the start of this thread (at the bottom) look very dry to me. Don't let that paper dry out!
    Like Heather says, they like to soak down here. When using paper they flatten their bellies on the bottom to soak up water and get re-hydrated.
    I would get a real thick layer of paper( towels )in the bottom and dampen it really well ( sopping wet !) with spring water ( bottled water).
    Misting is okay as well- 2-3 times a day. Don't spray directly on your frog. Spray with distilled water ( which will not stain the glass of the enclosure)
    I would not worry about putting too many crickets in the enclosure at night if there is paper on the bottom.
    Extra crickets are better for now while he is little and / or stressed. Make dinner an "easy catch"
    Fee him well. The white bottom makes it easy for you to monitor the food intake for now-and to see what has been eaten by the next morning.
    Remove the uneaten crickets and replace with more each night. If he is little- he needs to eat every night.
    Keep a very shallow saucer in the enclosure filled w/ bottled water (1/2 inch or less) ( change it daily )

    Don't touch your frog unless it is absolutely necessary. ( if needed wash and rinse your hands well)
    You might cover three sides of the enclosure - the frog would feel safer.
    Keep the frog in complete darkeness at night.
    Develop a day/night cycle for him.

    Don't add another red eyed tree frog into the enclosure for at least 6 weeks- or longer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flybyferns View Post
    Kimmy,

    What is your frog's name?

    The photos that are posted at the start of this thread (at the bottom) look very dry to me. Don't let that paper dry out!
    Like Heather says, they like to soak down here. When using paper they flatten their bellies on the bottom to soak up water and get re-hydrated.
    I would get a real thick layer of paper( towels )in the bottom and dampen it really well ( sopping wet !) with spring water ( bottled water).
    Misting is okay as well- 2-3 times a day. Don't spray directly on your frog. Spray with distilled water ( which will not stain the glass of the enclosure)
    I would not worry about putting too many crickets in the enclosure at night if there is paper on the bottom.
    Extra crickets are better for now while he is little and / or stressed. Make dinner an "easy catch"
    Fee him well. The white bottom makes it easy for you to monitor the food intake for now-and to see what has been eaten by the next morning.
    Remove the uneaten crickets and replace with more each night. If he is little- he needs to eat every night.
    Keep a very shallow saucer in the enclosure filled w/ bottled water (1/2 inch or less) ( change it daily )

    Don't touch your frog unless it is absolutely necessary. ( if needed wash and rinse your hands well)
    You might cover three sides of the enclosure - the frog would feel safer.
    Keep the frog in complete darkeness at night.
    Develop a day/night cycle for him.

    Don't add another red eyed tree frog into the enclosure for at least 6 weeks- or longer.

    temps
    daytime --78 - 82 F
    night time --71-75 F
    humidity 70-80 %

    Let us Know !!
    Hi Lynn ,
    I haven't decided on a name yet but I'll let you know when I do

    I bought really thick kitchen towels today and this morning when I cleaned him out I put three layers in and soaked it really well .. I'm going to start using new substrate in about a week or so ...

    I have the two sides covered with black paper so he feels safer ... I've just bought a 13watt bulb for the tank which I'll put on tomorrow and I'm going to buy a timer too so I can have timed day/night cycle ..

    Thanks for the help

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    Has anybody seen this type of dark colouration under the legs, arms and side of belly before on a red eyed tree frog .. You can see it in the pictures I've put up, it's noticable when he's pressed up against the glass .. I haven't come across any pictures on line of this dark colour before but that's not to say it's uncommon ... If anybody thinks this looks unusual please let me know because I'm very worried about my new baby ..

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    Quote Originally Posted by kimmy View Post
    Has anybody seen this type of dark colouration under the legs, arms and side of belly before on a red eyed tree frog .. You can see it in the pictures I've put up, it's noticable when he's pressed up against the glass .. I haven't come across any pictures on line of this dark colour before but that's not to say it's uncommon ... If anybody thinks this looks unusual please let me know because I'm very worried about my new baby ..
    kimmy,
    There is really no rush to change the substrate. The paper towel is serving its purpose. Just keep it clean.
    Change it when he is sleeping so he is not disturbed.
    For now your able to monitor feeding and pooping more closely.

    Continue to include a shallow water dish-change water daily, as heather and I post earlier. ( bottled spring water- just rinse, dry w/ paper towel , no soap)

    Remember , put new crickets in each night before he wakes up. And remove uneaten food in the morning after he goes back to sleep.
    The uneaten crickets can just go back into the cricket keeper.

    cricket size: the cricket should fit between his eyes- smaller in better than larger if you are not sure. -----

    I'm afraid the belly photos are difficult to make out.
    However the other - top view- he looks good!
    One of my red eyes have a bit of darker coloration around the belly.
    If he happens to be on the glass - I'll get a pic and post it.
    We can compare.

    Maybe you could get another pic of the belly some point, with out waking him.
    I use a flashlight at night for pics.

    How long is he? snout to bum

    Is he pooping ?

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    Dendrobates auratus "Pena Blanca"
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    Dendrobates tinctorius "Green Sipaliwini"
    Dendrobates tinctorius “Powder Blue"
    Dendrobates tinctorius "French Guiana Dwarf Cobalt"

    Phyllobates terribilis “Mint”
    Phyllobates terribilis "Orange"
    Phyllobates bicolor "Uraba"

    Oophaga pumilio "Black Jeans"
    Oophaga pumilio "Isla Popa"
    Oophaga pumilio "Bastimentos"
    Oophaga pumilio “Mimbitimbi”
    Oophaga pumilio "Rio Colubre"
    Oophaga pumilio "Red Frog Beach”
    Oophaga pumilio "Rio Branco"
    Oophaga pumilio “Valle del Rey”
    Oophaga pumilio "BriBri"
    Oophaga pumilio "El Dorado"
    Oophaga pumilio "Cristobal"
    Oophaga pumilio "Rambala"

    Oophaga “Vicentei” (blue)

    Oophaga sylvatica "Paru"
    Oophaga sylvatica "Pata Blanca"
    Oophaga histrionica “Redhead”
    Oophaga histrionica "Blue"
    Oophaga lehmanni "Red"
    Oophaga histrionica "Tado"

    Ranitomeya variabilis "Southern"
    Ranitomeya imitator "Varadero"
    Ranitomeya sirensis "Lower Ucayali"
    Ranitomeya vanzolinii

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