Hello frog forumers!
As you might or might not know, I currently have one male and one female red eyed tree frog, a species that I'm totally blown away by, in every possible aspect. However, I've been secretly longing for mossy tree frogs for a while now, but both me and my girlfriend agreed that we don't have any more room for more terrariums (snake+lizard+frogs+aquarium for future tadpoles+3 small terrariums for froglets) in our small 2 roomer. Fortunately, we are not good at keeping promises...
Here's our latest additions new home. It's a corner terrarium that's 80 cm high. The sides (from the back corner to the front) is 70 cm, so it's a fairly large tank (at least it's not a small tank):
Front view:
Front view in frog perspective, hehe:
Please note that the pictures really don't justify the depth of the tank.. It's not as plain as it looks. It's somewhat densely planted which several different plants (both climbing, non-climbing and aquatic), with a bottom all made of water. There are big (and small) roots in the water, along with some nice large rocks (to give the ability to semi-sit in the water). The background is custom made with something that's somewhat like the Great stuff that is sold in the US.
I'm sorry, but I'm tired and it's been a long day. I just have one picture of one frog right now (there are 4 males living in there), so that'll have to do. I will update this thread with more info later, but right now I need to sleep!
Close up:
Awsome tank and beautiful frog (:
So cool!
What an awesome frog! He looks so unique! And an adorable face . I've never seen one before. His home is very nice .
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Thank you all for the kind words!
Yes, they are very unique in their apperance. The texture of the skin makes them extreme camoflaugers, much like the red eyes, but on moss instead of green leaves. I've been looking directly at one of the frogs without seing it, because he was all curl up on a chunck of moss.
It's a very interesting species. They are semi-aquatic/semi-arboreal, which is a very unusual combination. Take red eyes for example, they are the pinnacle of tree living, and therefore very well suited for climbing, but not so much for swimming, at all... Theloderma on the other hand, is quite skillful at climbing, but not at all as agile and delicate climbers as the red eyes. On the other hand, their much thicker and powerful legs makes them good swimmers.
Another very nice thing: The call a lot and loud! Throughout the entire night, there were calls comming from their tank, with about 30 minutes of silence, and then 30 minutes of constant calling. They sound nothing like the red eyes (Theloderma actually sounds like a sonar from a submarine...), so now you can here the calling of two different frog species (and the clicking of the gecko) when sitting in our living room!
That viv looks great! Good job!
The frogs are really beautiful! I'm building a viv for Thelodermas too right now. Hope it turns out half as good as yours.
Are these frogs from Hamm too?
Raya, I'm pretty sure they are from Hamm originally, however I purchased them from a friend here in Umeå that've had them for at least 2 years.
I actually got an offer today from a frogger in the vinicity that have many contacts in the frogs world. He said he could get us a female, which is quite rare in this species. So, there will be some breeding of these as well in the future. Probably not yet though
Ah okay. Please post more pictures of the frogs. They look so awesome! I see that they even got their camouflage pattern in their eyes. Such cool frogs!
How active are they when the lights go out? Do they climb around at all?
I'll post more when I have more of them!
They are quite active, I would say. They climb a lot, and they jump around quite much more than the red eyes (red eyes prefer to climb and actually seldom jump, even though they are very capable of jumping). I've just seen it one time so far, but they occasionally swim as well. They are nocturnal as you one, but not do the extreme extent as the red eyes. Sometimes they move around during the day, but mostly just to reposition themselves to sleep further. However, be prepared for their calling. They call alot, often and loud. However, I love to hear frogs call, so it's just a pleasure if you ask me. Especially when both species are calling at the same time
Unfortunately, I do not have any more pictures of the frogs yet. They are indeed nocturnal and I do not want to disturb them so much yet. I want them to fully settled in before taking more pictures.
As of yesterday, they ate for the first time. Now, they have slow metabolism compared to most frogs, but it was a little over a week since the last ate. This was probably a side effect of the move to our place.
If anyone is interested in how they sound, I have a file that I recorded it yesterday (when I was trying to do a recording task for my Japanese course... Couldn't do it because of their calling):
http://data.fuskbugg.se/skalman02/96...%20calling.ogg
I'm jealous. I saw these during the summer @ Repticon and fell in love with them. I too do not have the space for them at this point, but some day.................
Great picture! Handsome little guy.
I just love their little faces! Great picture. Very interesting .
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Thanks guys, they really are stunning frogs!
Now, if I only could find a female...
Just two more pictures for everyone to enjoy. One OK picture, and one bad picture... I just thought it would be fun to show that they really are semi-tree/semi-aquatic frogs:
Current Collection
Dendrobates leucomelas - standard morph
Dendrobates auratus “Costa Rican Green Black"
Dendrobates auratus "Pena Blanca"
Dendrobates tinctorius “New River”
Dendrobates tinctorius "Green Sipaliwini"
Dendrobates tinctorius “Powder Blue"
Dendrobates tinctorius "French Guiana Dwarf Cobalt"
Phyllobates terribilis “Mint”
Phyllobates terribilis "Orange"
Phyllobates bicolor "Uraba"
Oophaga pumilio "Black Jeans"
Oophaga pumilio "Isla Popa"
Oophaga pumilio "Bastimentos"
Oophaga pumilio “Mimbitimbi”
Oophaga pumilio "Rio Colubre"
Oophaga pumilio "Red Frog Beach”
Oophaga pumilio "Rio Branco"
Oophaga pumilio “Valle del Rey”
Oophaga pumilio "BriBri"
Oophaga pumilio "El Dorado"
Oophaga pumilio "Cristobal"
Oophaga pumilio "Rambala"
Oophaga “Vicentei” (blue)
Oophaga sylvatica "Paru"
Oophaga sylvatica "Pata Blanca"
Oophaga histrionica “Redhead”
Oophaga histrionica "Blue"
Oophaga lehmanni "Red"
Oophaga histrionica "Tado"
Ranitomeya variabilis "Southern"
Ranitomeya imitator "Varadero"
Ranitomeya sirensis "Lower Ucayali"
Ranitomeya vanzolinii
http://www.fernsfrogs.com
https://www.facebook.com/ferns.frogs
Thank you Lynn! They are a nice species indeed.
I have another picture for anyone that's interested, but it's not super high quality. Just thought the motive was nice
I am interested in getting another frog / species ( a pair) at some point. I think about these things for a really long time.
I can't decide between Amazon Milk frogs (trachyccephalus resinifictrix ) or these? The mossy frog is so cute - I love all the bumps !!!
I have an enclosure I could turn vertically. BUT, I will have to create a new front for it. Yikes !
I have this :
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B001769CGY/...SIN=B001769CGY
Above was my first enclosure for my red eyes. I got it at a garage sale. But it was not tall enough used horizontally. The screen top is made of a plastic screening fabric.
That screen top was a terrible problem when used horizontally.
or I have an old 20 gallon high ( left over from discus and angle fish breeding ) ? not very high when turned vertically for amazon milks though? Don't know
I am scheming.
I do have my hands full w/ my other 'charges'.
Lynn
Current Collection
Dendrobates leucomelas - standard morph
Dendrobates auratus “Costa Rican Green Black"
Dendrobates auratus "Pena Blanca"
Dendrobates tinctorius “New River”
Dendrobates tinctorius "Green Sipaliwini"
Dendrobates tinctorius “Powder Blue"
Dendrobates tinctorius "French Guiana Dwarf Cobalt"
Phyllobates terribilis “Mint”
Phyllobates terribilis "Orange"
Phyllobates bicolor "Uraba"
Oophaga pumilio "Black Jeans"
Oophaga pumilio "Isla Popa"
Oophaga pumilio "Bastimentos"
Oophaga pumilio “Mimbitimbi”
Oophaga pumilio "Rio Colubre"
Oophaga pumilio "Red Frog Beach”
Oophaga pumilio "Rio Branco"
Oophaga pumilio “Valle del Rey”
Oophaga pumilio "BriBri"
Oophaga pumilio "El Dorado"
Oophaga pumilio "Cristobal"
Oophaga pumilio "Rambala"
Oophaga “Vicentei” (blue)
Oophaga sylvatica "Paru"
Oophaga sylvatica "Pata Blanca"
Oophaga histrionica “Redhead”
Oophaga histrionica "Blue"
Oophaga lehmanni "Red"
Oophaga histrionica "Tado"
Ranitomeya variabilis "Southern"
Ranitomeya imitator "Varadero"
Ranitomeya sirensis "Lower Ucayali"
Ranitomeya vanzolinii
http://www.fernsfrogs.com
https://www.facebook.com/ferns.frogs
Well, if it's not high enough for red eyes, then it's not high enough for either milk frogs or mossy frogs. They're all tree-dwelling frogs as you know. Mossy are no doubt the largest of these frogs, so if you're short on space I would advice against mossys. They also need a real water part (preferably with moving water) which takes up even more space.
Lastly, I have to say that I'm not very fund of the idea "I have a spare tank, what can I put in it". Decide what pet you really want, then get an appropriate tank for it, not the other way around.
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