Amphibian ID help

[sebastianbawn]

Hi I was hoping someone may be able to identify my pics for me, any help would be greatly appreciated.

[Kurt]

I would say its Asian, probably some form of Cynops, family Salamandridae. Check out this link maybe it can help with a firm ID http://www.livingunderworld.org/caud...salamandridae/

[sebastianbawn]

Thanks Kurt. Just found out its a Paddle-Tailed Newt (pachytriton labiatus)

[John]

The one on the left is a paddle tail. The one on the right is not. Not quite sure what the right hand one is though.

[sebastianbawn]

I keep getting told the one on the right is an Alpine Newt, Doesnt look much like the pics I have seen though

[Kurt]

I don't think its a Pachytriton, the head shape is wrong (at least in the second pic.) Pachytriton have some what smooth skin. I am going to stick with Cynops as my ID.

[sebastianbawn]

So are we going for a cynops on pic 2. It does look similar to an Alpine but there are a few differences

[Kurt]

Yeah, I going to stick with Cynops on the second picture. Not sure exactly which species though. The first picture is probably a Pachytriton.

[justin shockey]

i cant relly see your pick so how can we help you

[Jake]

i cant relly see your pick so how can we help you

You don't speak for everyone here. I can clearly see an alpine newt and a paddletail newt. True the pics aren't very bright, but that doesn't make it impossible to identify the subjects.

[John]

Are you sure that's an alpine, Jake? It's very brown and Cynops-like.

[justin shockey]

sorry did not think i was being a prick but im sorry

[tylototriton]

I can kind of see the second pic being an alpine newt. It looks like I see some blue and the stomach looks more uniform. I can't really tell, so i'll differ to John and Jake.

Alex