Need help with sex of tree frog and toad...

[Medgrik]

It deff. sounds like the Tree Frog is male. The PCF usually doesn't like a different species around them so i would deff. separate them. I have 3 PCF's: 2 little female ones that are growing and a male that is an adult and they LOVE to be around each other! I just got home from work and looked in the tank all 3 of them burrowed into the moss an inch away from each other. They are fun to have and are very entertaining when they are awake and hopping all around there terrarium.

[busytiredmom4]

It deff. sounds like the Tree Frog is male. The PCF usually doesn't like a different species around them so i would deff. separate them. I have 3 PCF's: 2 little female ones that are growing and a male that is an adult and they LOVE to be around each other! I just got home from work and looked in the tank all 3 of them burrowed into the moss an inch away from each other. They are fun to have and are very entertaining when they are awake and hopping all around there terrarium.

Thank you for your reply! Well, I just confirmed PCF is definitely male. For couple weeks, I've heard croaking but when I get close enough to check it out, he stops. Then tonight, he was very vocal and I saw for myself his throat sac was inflated and his throat is remaining dark, instead of going from light to dark and vice versa. For 5 months, I've raised him since a tadpole and come to know him as a "she"...that's going to take some getting used to. And tonight when I witnessed the enlarged vocal sac and calling, my toad was in view of him, so maybe my toad is a female. Or do they call to either sex? My toad is about the same age so we'll have to wait and see about the sex of that one if it calls. I'm leaning towards female, personally. I'm adding more to my collection within next few months, preferably Clown Tree frog or Monkey tree frog, but I'd not picky. I already had a 5.5 gallon aquarium tank that's much larger than their existing tank so I'm moving them over in morning. Even though I don't think anything bad would happen between them (agressiveness), they are animals and it's nature. I'll be separating them, but keeping their tanks next to each other so at least they can see each other. They're buddies and used to sleep together and soak together, hip to hip. Since we've had toad for 2 months, he thinks he's a tree frog. He'll somehow climb the terrarium wall to the top and stick to it like tree frogs do. then he'll climb on the vine that PCF sleeps in and imitate her. It's adorable and I hate to seperate, but if it's in their best interest, gotta do it. They're like my children-love these little guys tremendously! Again, thanks for your post. Very helpful!

[John]

As Royce said, I hope they're not living together.

The Pacific Tree Frog has to be male, you are correct. I've never heard of this so-called deficiency briefly turning their throats dark. If you have a reference for this, please post it. It seems nonsensical to me.

The toad is hard to sex from the photos. If I had to take a guess I'd say female but that's a very wild guess.