I purchased both of mine from a chain store. Petsmart. Their methods of keeping their frogs is questionable. I believe I've been lucky so far. When there was a problem I didn't wait til it was too late. I acted right away and save Grif's life. She's up to alil over 4 inches and is about 8 months old. My other is a Green Cranwelli and is still a baby. Probably a month old. Loki is the size of a half dollar. I bet all yours are massive.