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    erini
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    Sad to say that Willy passed away not very long ago Within the past two hours he developed a very large skin lesion on his back. I've contacted the store owner who was shocked to hear it. Not sure if the stress of the move made him more susceptible to infection, or if it was something that was already starting. The store owner has 10 more that are coming in about a week and a half and will replace this little guy for me, so I'll be getting a quarantine tank ready to set up. In the meantime, I'm going to do a complete water change of the tank, since that's where the guy spent all of his time to prevent the bacteria from growing in the tank and possibly infecting the female. .

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    wesleybrouwer
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    Erin,

    Found you're post on them

    Looking at these pictures, i'd say they are quit possibly nigropalmatus.
    But i'm still not a 100% convinced about that.
    Rhacophorus kio might match yours as well.

    Any idea why the seller changed his mind and called them reinwardtii?

    Maybe you can make some clear pictures, and try to get the colors as you see them live.
    If possible, could you post the webbing, belly and flank of you're female?
    When you get the male post some pictures of him as well

    And do ask the seller why the sudden name change when you speak to him again when picking up the replacing frog.

    A possibility might be it is Rhacophorus kio, since norhayati can't be the case since the side doesn't match with one for sure.
    They both were reinwardtii and became their own species quit recently.
    There is a mix up in the Rhacophorus species more often then not.

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    wesleybrouwer
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    Rhacophorus species seem to be difficult to addapt to captivity.

    They are really sensitive to stress.

    To help them adapt better, i found it's best to first let them settle.
    Don't keep them in a enclosure to sterile and to low on hiding places.
    A large setup, life plants with big leaves like Philodendron, monstera or scindapsus are great.
    Keep them somewhat drier, around 60% and somewhat warmer, around 28 degrees celcius for the first period.
    Give them a little bowl with water they can soke in and fill it with some softened water.
    Spray lightly just before lights on or off to get them active.
    Put in some night active insects like moths and small Gryllus assimilis, these are the best cricket species in my opinion since they aren't as loud, can't form any plagues indoors, have a somewhat better feeding value and don't jump as much as the others do.

    Keep an eye out on the frogs to see if they don't develop sores or other strange things, mainly on the back and eyes.
    When you find they develop the sores on the back, treatment with Enrofloxacine or Sulfaanilamide might sometimes work, but please contact a vet before applying first.
    The whitish, swollen eyes might be treated by rinsing with 5% saline solution and using Polytrim, another method is using ciprofloxacin but i did not test that myself yet, altough i believe the person that suggested it being able to judge that quit well.
    Yet again, contact you're vet first to see what the dosage is you need to use.
    Just as an indication what you might do when you encounter the problems i have seen most in Rhacophorids.

    Soon as thet are well settled,
    try not to disturb them when you dont have to.
    Stress them out once, and you will see 90% of them fall back all the way to the point you first got them.

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    erini
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    Sorry! I haven't had a chance to post in awhile. Thank you for all the info Wesley!! I can definitely see that they could be Kio rather than Nigropalmatus or Reinwardtii. I haven't taken any more pictures lately to allow the female to really settle in and she seems to be doing great so far. I turn the light off at 7pm and she typically wakes up around 9pm and is extremely active. I haven't wanted to take pictures since I would need light for it and didn't want to disturb her. I've adjusted the humidity and heat per your suggestions as well. I'll try to get some soon though

    As far as the seller goes, it was more of an absent-minded type of letting me know on the second one. The first time he chatted with us for awhile about their needs. When I brought them home, it was more of an oh wait, by the way, these are such and such. If that made any sense at all :P

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