Meet Willy and Billie!

[erini]

Rhacophorus nigropalmatus! Edited: The owner originally said they were nigropalmatus, but for some reason said that they were reinwardtii today, but I'm fairly sure they're the nigropalmatus based on the absence of the black band and turquoise spots along their sides and the fact that their webbing is black and not blue. Opinions would be greatly appreciated!

Meet Billie. She was originally Billy, but then I found out that he was a she:



She has been extremely active so far and seems to be enjoying her new habitat. She's been gliding all over the place checking things out.






And this is her buddy Willy



He's currently shedding his skin, and was quite disgruntled that he had to move. He was merrily soaking away before he was rudely interrupted by the store owner and taken to his new home. But he appears to enjoy his new perch.



So far so good!

[erini]

Couple more photos:

You can see the webbing in their feet much better in this photo. Billie was hanging out on the Aeonium Cyclops:


And I decided to show Willy where the pond was so he could continue what he was doing before I up-ended his life. He seems more more content now.

[DonLisk]

Very nice and tanks for sharing the great pics

[John]

Is there any blue between the toes at all, even spots? R. reinwardtii doesn't always have blue spots along its flanks.

[erini]

Don - Thanks!

John - Not that I can see, which is why I'm thinking nigroplatamus instead. It's not the solid jet black you see in some of the photos, it's more like a striping with a small base of color between each toe, but the color is definitely black. I'll have to see if I can get a good photo of their webbing tomorrow. The light is off now and I don't want to disturb them and turn it back on.

[Heatheranne]

I've never seen frogs like these. I love the webbing of their feet. Very interesting. Great pictures!

[erini]

On average, how long does it take for a frog to shed it's skin? Just curious, Willy doesn't look like he's doing so hot. He's been hanging out in the pond for about 18 hours now, barely moving. Occasionally he will move abruptly, and when he does move it doesn't look lethargic or anything. That's when he'll do the yawning motion as well. His eyes look clear when he opens them. Just concerned as he seems thin and isn't breathing as heartily as Billie. The extent of his exploration has been one end of the pond to the other and back. Don't know if I should be concerned, or if this is something he'll work out of due to the stress of moving and shedding at the same time. The humidity in the tank is about 70-78%, getting up in the higher 70's right after a misting and the temp is about 75-78 during the day and 70-74 at night.

Billie, on the other hand, is doing great. She's settled in very nicely and explored the viv some more last night around 9 PM. A lot of the crickets are gone now and she's snoozing away on the side now.

[erini]

Sad to say that Willy passed away not very long ago Within the past two hours he developed a very large skin lesion on his back. I've contacted the store owner who was shocked to hear it. Not sure if the stress of the move made him more susceptible to infection, or if it was something that was already starting. The store owner has 10 more that are coming in about a week and a half and will replace this little guy for me, so I'll be getting a quarantine tank ready to set up. In the meantime, I'm going to do a complete water change of the tank, since that's where the guy spent all of his time to prevent the bacteria from growing in the tank and possibly infecting the female. .

[wesleybrouwer]

Erin,

Found you're post on them

Looking at these pictures, i'd say they are quit possibly nigropalmatus.
But i'm still not a 100% convinced about that.
Rhacophorus kio might match yours as well.

Any idea why the seller changed his mind and called them reinwardtii?

Maybe you can make some clear pictures, and try to get the colors as you see them live.
If possible, could you post the webbing, belly and flank of you're female?
When you get the male post some pictures of him as well

And do ask the seller why the sudden name change when you speak to him again when picking up the replacing frog.

A possibility might be it is Rhacophorus kio, since norhayati can't be the case since the side doesn't match with one for sure.
They both were reinwardtii and became their own species quit recently.
There is a mix up in the Rhacophorus species more often then not.

[wesleybrouwer]

Rhacophorus species seem to be difficult to addapt to captivity.

They are really sensitive to stress.

To help them adapt better, i found it's best to first let them settle.
Don't keep them in a enclosure to sterile and to low on hiding places.
A large setup, life plants with big leaves like Philodendron, monstera or scindapsus are great.
Keep them somewhat drier, around 60% and somewhat warmer, around 28 degrees celcius for the first period.
Give them a little bowl with water they can soke in and fill it with some softened water.
Spray lightly just before lights on or off to get them active.
Put in some night active insects like moths and small Gryllus assimilis, these are the best cricket species in my opinion since they aren't as loud, can't form any plagues indoors, have a somewhat better feeding value and don't jump as much as the others do.

Keep an eye out on the frogs to see if they don't develop sores or other strange things, mainly on the back and eyes.
When you find they develop the sores on the back, treatment with Enrofloxacine or Sulfaanilamide might sometimes work, but please contact a vet before applying first.
The whitish, swollen eyes might be treated by rinsing with 5% saline solution and using Polytrim, another method is using ciprofloxacin but i did not test that myself yet, altough i believe the person that suggested it being able to judge that quit well.
Yet again, contact you're vet first to see what the dosage is you need to use.
Just as an indication what you might do when you encounter the problems i have seen most in Rhacophorids.

Soon as thet are well settled,
try not to disturb them when you dont have to.
Stress them out once, and you will see 90% of them fall back all the way to the point you first got them.

[erini]

Sorry! I haven't had a chance to post in awhile. Thank you for all the info Wesley!! I can definitely see that they could be Kio rather than Nigropalmatus or Reinwardtii. I haven't taken any more pictures lately to allow the female to really settle in and she seems to be doing great so far. I turn the light off at 7pm and she typically wakes up around 9pm and is extremely active. I haven't wanted to take pictures since I would need light for it and didn't want to disturb her. I've adjusted the humidity and heat per your suggestions as well. I'll try to get some soon though

As far as the seller goes, it was more of an absent-minded type of letting me know on the second one. The first time he chatted with us for awhile about their needs. When I brought them home, it was more of an oh wait, by the way, these are such and such. If that made any sense at all :P