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    Default Re: Opinions wanted. How many RETF can live in a 36x36x18 Exo-Terra

    Quote Originally Posted by flybyferns View Post
    Oh my goodness you guys !
    We are ,all, very serious about are hobby. Aren't we ! You guys might be kookier then me ! no - that's not possible ?????

    Martin, You do not have "Bad English ". I understood every thing you have mentioned. Thank You.

    and

    weselybrower, thank you as well.

    Clean is what I emphasized. yes -
    I have 7 frogs ( 1 albino still in quarentine). never lost one ! ( knock wood )
    I will not leave plants in he tank that have been defecated on and urinated on ,day after day, after day.
    It's unhealthy for the frog and smell discussing , to boot !

    I never, ever disturb my frogs. I have never woken a sleeping frog.
    They don't care if I clean the paper towel- they don't even know I was there. They do not care what's on the bottom of the tank. My frogs have never seen costa rica!
    I can count on one hand how many times I ever so much as touch any of them.
    I use gloves when I clean the cage. NOOOOOOO, not becaause I think I am going to be poisoned w/ salmonella.
    Because, I wear nail polish,make-up, hand cream, use detergent at the kitchen sink. I have 2 cats, 2 hamsters, 2 fish tanks and a russian tortoise, ( that I do handle
    all of the time).
    I feel like I've said what I have to say and explained it as good as I can. So I'm not going to say much more on the topic of housing different species in one enclosure.
    Regarding the cleaning, I can't really say anything. It feels to me that it is unnecessary, but that doesn't mean anything. So I'm not going to comment that more either.

    Now, regarding cross-breeding within agalychnis... Have this ever been observed? Or cross-breeding within any other genus at all? Would be interesting to know.

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    Not sure what the phrase means with kookier, but well, i guess it must be something sarcastic reading the rest of you're post
    Sorry to have bothered you with a different opinion then your's and the person that teached you how to take care of frogs.

    The obsesive cleaning and sterile enclosures are something we think different about i think.
    In my point of view, it does stress frogs out to be moved in and out of the tank or fiddling around when they are sleeping.
    But , as you say, you never woke one up, so you must be really carefull while cleaning, picking up the plants they sleep on and clean the leaves around them.

    The smell? No idea, don't have that problem here and i do have all natural beddings with life plants in them.
    As i said before, overcrowding may cause excessive waist.

    To be answering you're question this topic was started about.
    No, i believe 6 frogs, 7 verry soon, are well enough for this size tank.
    I would suggest placing the moreletti in another tank and start a little group of them there.
    But i have an idea it don't even matter what i tell you, so this is the last i would say about it.

    Crossbreeding is possible, but not something you should wan't to do.
    There has been done some research on it by Andrew R. Gray, Manchester Museum of natural history.
    Hopefully you will never need to eat you're hat, otherwise i'd love to see some pictures of that

    The peeing is flight behavior by the way.
    In fact, there is just a negligible amount of urine in it, most of the liquid is plain water.
    By squirting the water out, in many cases they lose half their weight.
    This will make them lighter, so they are able to escape a predator easier since they don't cary that much weight.

    If you're ever caught up in the outback, lost, without water, you'll be thankfull for me being serious
    The aboriginals catch frogs when water is scarce in the desert.
    They make use of the squirting reflex of frogs in order to get some water to prevent dehydration.

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    Thanks again for all your help.
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