You know spencer, I've thought about what you said and what I said. How about we both just agree that are frogs are doing well and healthy? I'm sorry for giving you advice when you had already known what worked best for your frogs. Some people take it more lightly and someone maybe as experienced as yourself with frogs might take it a little more offensive insulting your intelligence. So I'm sorry for that. I just want it to stay friendly on this forum and not make anymore enemies so that we can share our hobby, knowledge, tips, pics, whatever you name it haha. So I hope you understand and accept.