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    Default 30 minute Semi Aquatic Tank project

    This is not a step by step build photo thread as the construction is so simple it is not worth posting all the pictures.


    Here is an example of a modified US 10 gallon tank for semi-aquatic species.

    Price List:

    10 gallon tank- 12USD
    Small piece of acrylic sheet (12"x12"x1/8th" at Home Depot)- 5USD
    Aquarium safe silicone sealant - 5USD
    Small bag of Aquarium gravel - 85 cents a pound bulk (used about 1.5 lbs)
    Bag of river rocks- 1USD at the dollar store

    The moss is from my yard. The potting soil and coir I keep on hand.

    Construction time is 15 minutes, not including a week to let the silicone cure properly!

    Simply cut a piece of the acrylic sheet to fit across the aquarium so that it fits tightly. Sand the bottom edge corners a bit to allow a space for the silicone already in the tank!) Acrylic sheet of this thickness can be easily "cut" buy scoring a deep line with a nail (or other sharp pointy object) along a ruler. Align the score with a table edge and merely snap it off. This gives you a clean break along the score. Next position the piece in the tank and prop up one side with a few small books or whatever and silicone it in place.
    After a day or two, do a leak test by adding water and watching for it on the "dry side". Dry out the tank and seal any leaks. I glued a bunch of river rocks to the divider for both critter traction and aesthetic reasons. In this application a very small amount of silicone was used so that the spaces between the rocks remain open for easy cleaning with a turkey baster. Wait a week for all silicone to cure completely.

    Once the silicone is cured, remove the books and add your substrate of choice. I use a layer of aquarium gravel at the bottom just in case any water makes it through the divider and for how it looks through the divider. I added a layer of coir strictly to demonstrate layering clearly for an article I am finishing up for Caudata Culture. Over that I packed in a layer of pesticide/herbicide/fertilizer free potting soil (not mulch or compost!). Next a nice carpet of moss and few river rocks for decoration.

    Add water and it is ready to go! (no hides are pictured for clarity, but fear not, my critters have their beloved cork bark in there!)

    Such a set up is suitable for a good number of terrestrial, semi-aquatic anura and caudata.

    Here is a shot with the new owners "installed":
    Watching FrogTV because it is better when someone else has to maintain the enclosure!

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    Default Re: 30 minute Semi Aquatic Tank project

    This is a really easy to do set-up, what a great idea, thanks for sharing Johnny.

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    Very nice.
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    Quick, Easy, Cheap, and Looks Nice. Good job Johnny. What would you recommend for the sealant? I have heard GE silicon II works fine and comes in a variety of colors. Because the silicon sold at aquarium stores is expensive.

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    I only use DAP Aquarium Silicone. I have seen people use other types but I personally would not. The problem with GE II is it is not rated for submerged use, technically speaking.
    Watching FrogTV because it is better when someone else has to maintain the enclosure!

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    I can't seem to open the photo's

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    I have heard that it costs a lot though'

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ebony View Post
    I can't seem to open the photo's
    Me too, I'm so curious to see what it looks like

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    These photos and more can be seen here.

    Odd that there seems to be an issue with photos from the caudata.org albums. I have stopped using web albums for posts in the two forums as sometimes pictures disappear after a while.
    Watching FrogTV because it is better when someone else has to maintain the enclosure!

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    Works fine for me and worked fine for me all day. I can't explain it.

    Johnny where do you buy the DAP silicone?
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    Default Re: 30 minute Semi Aquatic Tank project

    Johnny, I cant view it through there either. It wont let me do anything until I sign up.

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    Ah that's because guests can't load caudata.org _album_ photos (the can load gallery photos). I suppose I can change that but do you really want people ogling your more "personal" photos?
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    Of course... No don't change that...I can understand that.

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    What do you mean personal photo? What are you guys posting over there?

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    Naked salamander pictures...


    I will make some changes and get the pictures up shortly. I currently have my home network bandwidth bogged down for an experiment.

    Try these out...same order as the original post. I promise in the future I will not be so lazy.





    Last edited by SludgeMunkey; October 16th, 2009 at 07:39 AM. Reason: plumbed in the pics
    Watching FrogTV because it is better when someone else has to maintain the enclosure!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Highum View Post
    I have heard that it costs a lot though'
    It is really not all that expensive unless you need to reseal an entire aquarium.

    Quote Originally Posted by John View Post
    Works fine for me and worked fine for me all day. I can't explain it.

    Johnny where do you buy the DAP silicone?
    DAP brand aquarium silicone is available at just about every hardware and do it yourself store in the US.
    For small projects like this and general tank repair the 2.8 fl oz size is perfect. For about 5 dollars you can do multiple small projects or reseal an entire US standard 10 gallon tank. The small tube size is better than caulking gun sizes as you get a better shelf life out of it if you only need a small amount. A standard caulking gun size has to be completely used within 72 hours of breaking the seal or it gels up. A tube will last six months if you close the cap, keep it in a ziploc bag in the fridge. (pro tip I got from an aquarium manufacturer in San Diego!)

    I buy it at Ace Hardware online for a very very low price as I buy in bulk. (DAP product 688)
    DAP has two different versions of the same product. They are identical in formula but different in packaging.(DAP product 688 also)

    DAP does sell it in a caulking gun tube form, however after chatting with the folks in San Diego a few years back I have never bothered to order it.

    You can also get All-Glass brand in the roughly 3 oz. size for about ten dollars at any major chain pet store. To be frank, it is an inferior product to DAP in my experience.

    There is a few other brands of Aquarium safe sealant in the US, but I have not used them...yet

    For a pretty good run down of Aquarium Silicone use try here.
    (It is not nearly as informative as the chapter in my vivarium book-in-progress, but it covers the important parts.)
    Watching FrogTV because it is better when someone else has to maintain the enclosure!

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    So what are your views on using GE II for things like great stuff backgrounds covered with coco fiber?

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    Thanks Johnny for putting the photo's up. Very Nice, The sphagnum is growing really well. Excellent idea

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    Where do you get moss like that? How do you get it to grow like that? My moss always withers and dies. Any tips? also how do you guys get moss to grow on things like wood?

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    The moss that grows on the wood is different to the sphagnum moss. My Sphagnum Moss grows really well in my tank set ups. I don't have the moss directly on the water, It sits on the rocks which are in the water. It will grow on soil but I don't want to put soil in my tanks. See Album

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