Worried about my pac man

[BG]

What kind of vitamins should I get? So, I need vitamins and a calcium?

What do you mean by water temp? I just put in coconut fiber as my substrate.

Oh OK good. Offer him small dusted crickets every night. If he don't take them fine continue the next night.

[RobF353]

Just got back from the pet shop.

I bought a vitamin powder with D3 and a calcium powder with D3.

How often should I use each of them?

Also, my frog pooped a little, but is still acting strange. If he swallowed some moss, how long does it take to pass? Is there anything I can do other than wait?

[RobF353]

I have been reading around and it sounds like my frog may have Toxic Out Syndrome.

This is an explanation I found:

Because frogs absorb water through their skin from the substrate of the water bowl, you want to ensure that the water is changed frequently. If you leave foul water in the water, the toxins can be absorbed by the frog's skin, which can lead to this disorder. Signs of toxic out syndrome include: erratic jumping and spastic extensions of the hind limbs, listlessness, and cloudy eyes. Treatment of toxic out syndrome in frogs is by placing the frog in a shallow water dish of clean water and leaving the frog there. You'll want to replace the water every 4 hours or so until the signs go away. As long as you monitor the enclosure conditions, you can prevent the frog from toxing out.

What do you think?

[BG]

If you have a water bowl, you must keep it clean. Just keep him soaking in clean water. This way you are flushing the toxins. How often do you change the water. Is his environment clean. It all starts out from stress you know. It weakens their metabolism,and get sick. Hell be ok as long as you keep him calm and clean.

[RobF353]

If you have a water bowl, you must keep it clean. Just keep him soaking in clean water. This way you are flushing the toxins. How often do you change the water. Is his environment clean. It all starts out from stress you know. It weakens their metabolism,and get sick. Hell be ok as long as you keep him calm and clean.

I just put a bigger water bowl in there for him and I placed him in it. Should I try to keep him in the water bowl as much as possible?

How long until he gets better?

[MeTree]

I have been reading around and it sounds like my frog may have Toxic Out Syndrome.

This is an explanation I found:

Because frogs absorb water through their skin from the substrate of the water bowl, you want to ensure that the water is changed frequently. If you leave foul water in the water, the toxins can be absorbed by the frog's skin, which can lead to this disorder. Signs of toxic out syndrome include: erratic jumping and spastic extensions of the hind limbs, listlessness, and cloudy eyes. Treatment of toxic out syndrome in frogs is by placing the frog in a shallow water dish of clean water and leaving the frog there. You'll want to replace the water every 4 hours or so until the signs go away. As long as you monitor the enclosure conditions, you can prevent the frog from toxing out.

What do you think?

It is a possibility. This syndrome has afew different names, but I think Toxic Out is probably the most common. Some people don't understand that this isn't some kind of very rare diesase, this is something that is unfortunately common with Pacman Frogs. Be sure you are changing the water after everytime there is any evidence that your Pacman Frog has been inside of the dish.

TOS isn't the only thing that would provide ther symtoms you described. It could be something else, but if you haven't been changing the water all too regularly, that is probably where you want to look. When I was gone for camp this summer, my Pacman Frog developed it (forgot to tell the parents to change the water *facepalm*) and thankfully it is quickly reversable when treated early.

[IvoryReptiles]

It does sound like Toxicity to me.
PLEASE make sure you are using ONLY de-chlorinated water in the enclosure at ALL times!!!!
If you are concerned about a possible impaction due to moss ingestion, then maybe try feeding in a different container.
It will take time for him/her to get used to you. Frequent handling is not something I would practice. Try handling only when feeding or cleaning.
Photos would be great. I can guess at it's age, but honestly, size is not really an indicator. I'll show you why....



ALL 3 of these froglets are the same age. The photos were taken within 5 minutes of each other on the same day.
Use the vitamin & calcium every 3rd feeding.....too much can be just as devastating as not enough.
Hope this helps some.

[BG]

Thats Good sign. Dust every other day with calcium D3 , vitamins once a week . Every 4th feeding

Just got back from the pet shop.

I bought a vitamin powder with D3 and a calcium powder with D3.

How often should I use each of them?

Also, my frog pooped a little, but is still acting strange. If he swallowed some moss, how long does it take to pass? Is there anything I can do other than wait?

[RobF353]

So what do I do in the meantime? Just leave the frog alone?

[RobF353]

I think he's dead

[GrifTheGreat]

I think he's dead

Why do you think he's dead? Is it not responding to touch? How deep was the water you placed the frog in and did you de-chlorinate the frogs water?

[RobF353]

Why do you think he's dead? Is it not responding to touch? How deep was the water you placed the frog in and did you de-chlorinate the frogs water?

He is not responding. I sprayed him, he usually runs away, he didnt move. I picked him up, he didnt move.

How do you de-chlorinate water?

Is he still alive, just not responding or did I lose him?