All due respect ,but pacman frogs are way less maintenance then red foots. You need a big tub,UVB/A. you have to clean more often ,cause they are messy eaters. and they like it humid. They are not the desert type. The calcium and vitamins are not enough for them. They have to have a big variety of foods. Its much more work then pacman. I keep mine in a draw system and they are doing great. Not stressed out at all. I can do what ever i want with them and they wont get stressed out. Because i give them there space. The red foot is a beautiful tortoise and love to get one but ,i know ,i have 25 turtles. The maintenance is costly. But i love them . The good thing about them is i don't have to clean up any thing. I have good filters.