Are difficult to obtain, the latter was a gift, but worth quite expensive. Most buy them. They are from Brazil I can not catch them, do not travel there. In Buenos Aires there ornata but it is very difficult. For that reason, I want to participate in captive breeding projects for future release in their previous habitat impact studies. As for better training for better maintenance. It is my great desire. I hope to contact the right people to do so.
Sorry for my terrible English.