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    Default Blah... fruit fly issues

    Tonight I went to feed the peepers, and I had 2 problems.

    My fruit fly cultures were liquid, I tried to dump them and it poured out liquid goo. The fruit flies that didn't get caught in the goo, were flying. I tried 3 cultures and they were all like that, only the 4th was fine.

    What happened?? Temp? Humidity? Any tips?
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    How old were these cultures? I had one do this but I realized that the culture was older than a month,so I thought that was why...

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    Default Re: Blah... fruit fly issues

    I had the same issue occur with some cultures I bought from Petco. They kept producing flies but I couldn't tip the jar. My home done cultures that I had at the same time didn't turn to liquid so I figured it was the Petco cultures themselves.
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    Were these those little vials from the pet store or your own culture? I've had them turn to goo before, if the flies were especially prolific and the food was near exhausted. I've recently noticed a few of mine flying as well, which I figured meant a wild one managed to sneak into the culture to pass on the gift of flight.

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    Default Re: Blah... fruit fly issues

    All 4 of them ranged from 8-26 to 9-7, so they shouldn't have been exhausted yet. They weren't the vials, they were from a local pet store that does their own cultures. I've never had a problem with them before. All 4 of my earlier ones are still doing fine. I think I will just have to let the pet store know that I had major issues with them the last 2 rounds and see if they've had other complaints.
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    2.2.0 Agalychnis callidryas "Red Eyed Tree Frogs"

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    0.0.1 Anaxyrus fowleri "Fowler's Toad"



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    It depends on why their flightless as to why you now have some fliers; are they flightless or wingless and why blahblahblah. My guess would be things got too warm.

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    Default Re: Blah... fruit fly issues

    I'm pretty sure Temp is the reason they are flightless. The thing is, it's gotten COOLER out, I live in Wisconsin and we arent running the heat yet. But I thought they flew if they were too warm. I have no idea, I'm just very frustrated at the moment to lose 4 cultures. I don't culture myself, so that's $40 of fairly new cultures ruined. I might have to start though because I'm really annoyed.
    2.0.3 Hyla versicolor "Eastern Gray Tree Frogs"
    2.2.0 Agalychnis callidryas "Red Eyed Tree Frogs"

    0.0.3 Dendrobates auratus "Turquoise and Bronze"
    0.0.1 Anaxyrus fowleri "Fowler's Toad"



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    Amy can you call the pet store and see if they'll replace the cultures?

    It has definitely chilled down over the last week.

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    Default Re: Blah... fruit fly issues

    I have to stop in and buy more anyways now that these failed. So I will bring them in and let them know what happened. If I'm at fault, then I don't blame them, but I've never had a problem before.
    2.0.3 Hyla versicolor "Eastern Gray Tree Frogs"
    2.2.0 Agalychnis callidryas "Red Eyed Tree Frogs"

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    0.0.1 Anaxyrus fowleri "Fowler's Toad"



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    Quote Originally Posted by LilyPad View Post
    I have to stop in and buy more anyways now that these failed. So I will bring them in and let them know what happened. If I'm at fault, then I don't blame them, but I've never had a problem before.
    Are they the cultures from Petco? I've been too lazy to culture my own so I've been purchasing the ones from Petco and I haven't had a problem w/ them except a bit of white mold on an older culture. Fingers crossed that it stays that way--I'm on vacation for 2 wks and one of the other ladies in the office has agreed to take care of my cope's and my two chorus frogs which are still eating FF and I don't want to panic call.

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    Default Re: Blah... fruit fly issues

    They were from a local store. I don't have any petcos nearby (just 3 locals stores and a petsmart) I was buying the tubes at first, but considering my frogs eat 100+ fruit flies a night lately, that just isn't going to work for me. I usually keep between 6 and 8 big cultures (like the kind you see everyone doing in here) in the house to make sure I have enough without wiping out the population in one feeding. I'm also still feeding the toadlets fruit flies sometimes. They do eat small crickets but the 2 smaller of the toads still prefer fruit flies.
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    2.2.0 Agalychnis callidryas "Red Eyed Tree Frogs"

    0.0.3 Dendrobates auratus "Turquoise and Bronze"
    0.0.1 Anaxyrus fowleri "Fowler's Toad"



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    My house isn't insulated except for the bathroom we gutted out and the ceiling. As a result, the temp and humidity fluctuate wildly. I now keep my newer cultures on a shelf in the bathroom. The temperature is much more steady, and the short burst of humidity from my showers seem to keep the cultures from drying out when the air is on.

    I've found that I still have to add a lot of extra water to the Joshs medium I use. Maybe because of all the ceiling fans running full blast? I made 2 new cultures a week ago, and all the flies are dead and the medium is covered in mold. The only thing I did differently was keep them in a different place, in a dish of water, as an experiment in mite control. I'm thinking the kitchen was a bad idea.

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    I'm sorry to hear that your cultures were newer because I was also going to mention that mine have all turned runny like that as they have gotten old. I wonder what happened.

    You should definitely try starting your own cultures. I have bought 4 over the past few months and then emptied out the first two and used the recipe here on frog forum, and voila! They worked! I am so excited because those store bought ones cost so much dang money. I'm getting ready to restart the next two and just keep rotating them.

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    Default Re: Blah... fruit fly issues

    Amy - sometimes cultures can get wild fruit flies in them which makes them fly. I had that happen to a couple of my own - very frustrating. I agree with the above comment to try cultures yourself. I have used the recipe on this site of Rust and it is sooo easy! I make new cultures every week and have had great success with this particular recipe. I used to buy flies, but now do all my own.... Good luck!

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