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    I am interested in getting some poison dart frogs. I was wondering IF you could put differnt species of Dart frogs together?

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    Its not a good idea to mix any amphibian species. There are several reasons for this. Cross poisoning, territorial disputes, cross infection, possible predation, & interbreeding to name a few. A lot of people in the dart frog community even frown upon mixing of differnt colour morphs to prevent cross breeding. Unlike snake people, who seem to be always trying to come up with a new designer snakes, dart frog people are purists. They want to keep frogs the same in captivity as they would be found in the wild. So no new man-made colour morphs.

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    Thanks Kurt!

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    You're welcome. Stick to one type of dart frog. The more you have the more likely they are to breed for you. One chart I saw, stated if you have 8 or more the odds of a mated pair are 100%. The best choices for first dart frogs are Dendrobates auratus, D. azureus, D. tinctorius, and D. leucomelas. All relatively hardy, large (for a dart frog,) and outgoing. Dendrobates tinctorius comes in a wide variety of colour morphs, so that may be your first choice. Try not to mix the different colour morphs. You don't want to produce any "mutt" darts.

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    This is something you witness in pet shops that either 1) are stuck for space 2) don't know any better. It's not good to keep different species of Dart together for many reasons, firstly due to the chance of breeding but more due to the fact that many species can become aggressive towards others. Some Darts require a little more care than others, whilst some are more hardy. Some are bigger Darts whilst you can obtain smaller species, straight away there is a risk. It would be nice to have a tank full of different species, but it just can't be done with guarantees that they will all be happy or safe.

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    I read they are not poisonous in captivity. what is it that makes them toxic? as aposed to my fire bellys which are always toxic.

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    Studies have shown that much of the toxic content of Dendrobatid skin is derived from the food that they consume in their natural habitat. Those in captivity can lose much of their toxicity simply because they don't receive the same foods as their relatives in the wild. I can't say much about fire belly toads but I believe their toxicity is not in the same realm as that of a dart frog, and the toads don't derive their toxins from their food. The other factor to consider is that all fire belly toads are collected from the wild, while many (most?) of the dartfrogs we see for sale are captive bred.

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    John is right.I read in a book I have that some people went to study the dart frog's habitat and discovered that they got their toxin from ants.The ants where feeding off of certain plants and then the frog eats the ants and gets the substance into itself from the plants the ants ate.

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    Does anybody know a website that provides a list containing info on the known dart frog species?

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    What kind of info are you looking for? This site has a lot of amphibian info in general - http://www.livingunderworld.org/

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    Thanks Kurt...This may be what I need!

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    Your welcome

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    www.dendroboard.com

    It is a dart only forum set up just like this one. Look me up...I am chesney over there.

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    I'm a little late on this one. WC dart frogs will retain toxicity after capture, although it decreases the longer they are in captivity. CB darts are not toxic at all. Like it was said above, darts derive their toxins from their diets, primarily beetles and ants.

    Alex

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    May I suggest keeping this website in mind for dart frog information? www.saurian.net
    This is Patrick Nabors website. He raises and breeds frogs and has supplied zoos all around the country with frogs. His expertise is impeccable and his knowledge is great. He is also an all round nice guy! He sold me my three new d. auratus (which, by the way, are fantastic) and is willing to answer questions, if you're a newbie like me.

    Good luck to you!

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    Hello everybody,
    Soon I will buy some Dart frogs. Can anybody tell me how big terrarium they need? In terrarium will be 3-4 frogs.

    Thanks

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    A twenty-gallon long makes a good terrarium depending on species. Some dart frog species can be quite terratorial, so research the species you want to keep.

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    Default Re: Poison Dart Frog Question

    I recently purchased and read this book on dart frogs. It is very pricey, but many libraries have it available.

    This is an excellent source for just about everything Dart Frog.

    In fact, it was so informative, I decide not to keep darts after reading it!
    Watching FrogTV because it is better when someone else has to maintain the enclosure!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SludgeMunkey View Post
    I recently purchased and read this book on dart frogs. It is very pricey, but many libraries have it available.

    This is an excellent source for just about everything Dart Frog.

    In fact, it was so informative, I decide not to keep darts after reading it!
    Good thing I didn't read it. LOL

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    Thanks for buk i think i will buy it.
    @kurt: to you think that for 1 dart frog i need 20 gallon2 or 20gallons3?

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