New England Herpetological Society Show and Sale

[Kurt]

I would love to hear more about it.

[John]

Which race of Dendrobates auratus is it Mike?

[Tom Highum]

Ooh Mike if you ever wanted to sell some im sure this forum has more then a few potential customers.
Also I find the idea about this project interesting how many people are participating?

[scribbles]

Yes, I'll be going.

[Mike]

Which race of Dendrobates auratus is it Mike?

They were sold to me as "speckled" capira auratus from SNDF: http://www.sndartfrogs.com/galleryfsauratus.html

Just don't have space for everything and would rather use their tank for another breeding project I'm working on. These are the 4 adults I'll be dropping off:

Ooh Mike if you ever wanted to sell some im sure this forum has more then a few potential customers.
Also I find the idea about this project interesting how many people are participating?

It's a project within the Amphibian Steward Network, a program of Tree Walkers International (an amphibian conservation group that I do volunteer work for). We are tracking the animals in the ASN's studbook (which uses ISIS, the same database as other zoos). Not sure on number of people but hopefully the offspring from Ray's breeding group get into good homes that will breed them as well and in a year from now there will be a lot more offspring produced that can be distributed in the hobby.

[Mike]

Does anyone know if crickets are usually sold by vendors at the event? Never been to this show before.

[Kurt]

Yes, providing Coldbloods is there. They are listed on the vendor list.

[John]

Very nice frogs Mike - much more interesting than "normal" auratus. That third frog looks like she's ready to pound out the eggs.

[Kurt]

Well, a few of us did manage to meet up today at the New England Herpetological Society Show and Sale. I got there first, since I am a member of NEHS and I had the cash box. I met up with Richard (RPM) from Caudata.org. I had gotten some blotch tiger salamanders from him about two years ago. He had more of with him today, plus some barred and easterns. John showed up and I showed him around the NEWC. He was disappointed by the limited numbers of frogs for sale.

Cold Blooded Pets had some African bullfrogs and some pac-mans. Regal had red-eyes, White's, and a few different darts. We met up with Mike and Ray in the parking lot and Mike had some dazzling auratus with him, as well as an Epipedobates bicolor, which I thought looked a lot like an Ameerega trivittata. There were tons of leopard geckos, crested geckos, bearded dragons, corn snakes, ball pythons, Boa constrictors, milk snakes, and other snakes for sale as well. The coolest things for sale were the CB Chinese box turtles, Cuora flavomarginata. It wasn't a bad day, though I wished there were plenty of other frogs for sale.

[Mike]

Nice meeting you today Kurt, and good to see you again John. Actually it was an Epipedobates tricolor .

[Kurt]

D'oh! I was close. Don't know why I got that one wrong, as I used to have one a long time ago. It was nice to meet you too. Did you get your Mantella aurantiaca?

[Mike]

Yes! and they are TINY.

[Kurt]

How tiny are they? (Whoa! Just had a Johnny Carson flashback for a moment)

[Mike]

3 are 1/2" SVL, and another 3 younger ones from different parents are half that (trying to eventually form unrelated groups when older).

[Tom Highum]

How big do they get?

[Mike]

According to the book "Mantellas" by Marc Staniszewski, females from 22-26 mm SVL (0.87-1.00 in), males from 18-22mm (0.71-0.87 in) [page 148].

[Kurt]

How big do they get?

Thats a rather personal question!!!

[scribbles]

Those White's Treefrogs that Regal Reptiles was selling were smaller than I've ever seen them. I was surprised to see 4 African Fat-Tailed Geckos for sale, including a 3 month old female that I purchased. I did not see Kurt or John, but I was in a rush as I had somewhere I had to go.

[John]

Kurt was there all day I think, and I was there for about 3 hours. Not sure how you missed me.

[Tom Highum]

Every one else lives on the other side of the country. It is kinda sad.
Kurt do you have a smart remark for everything I say?