Phoenix worms a no-no?

[kueluck]

I've heard great things about phoenix worms and thought I would give it a try for the toads and frogs. I headed to the reptile show and picked up appropriate size. I can't get the frogs to take them but of course the toads will, they eat just about anything. Then I noticed that they are “passing” the worms whole and some are still alive!! I hate to just flush them, so should I let them turn to flies? Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

[JeffX]

I've never heard that before. That doesn't sound right.

[mdtalley22]

Are your frogs digesting any food right now? I know my bearded doesn't digest well if his temperatures drop...but Phoenix worms should be alright, and with no shell (at least not like super or meal worms) it should digest better than most other inscets.

[kueluck]

I emailed Josh and he sent me the suppliers site, I want to know if others have had this issue. They seem healthy, just poopin' whole worms and 2 were still alive. Don't know who to feel sorry for, the toad or the worm. I'll just have to squish the worms, then feed them to the toads, they will eat any thing hanging from the tweezers.

[kueluck]

They digest every thing else, crickets, flies, moths, slugs,wax worms, just the phoenix are coming out whole.

[BG]

I'm glad i never fed them.

[wesleybrouwer]

That is strange, i do feed them to my bigger frogs and they digest them properly.
At first they seem to spit it out since they don't know the taste,
but they do that with other feeders now and then as well.
Pooping live worms seems impossible to me.
The fluids inside the frog will kill the worms if you ask me.
Are you sure they past the stomach of you're frogs?