Question About Vitamin Toxicity

[frogluver]

Just out of curiosity, what symptoms do frogs display when they have vitamin toxicity?

[Sublime]

I would really like to know this too, great question.

[BG]

They start to spread out there back legs and spas out and flip over.cant move around cause of soft bones and it hurts.

[John]

I've never seen anything that can be confirmed as vitamin toxicity, so I can't really help you here. It's my belief that good supplements like the Repashy line make it difficult to have any problems like this.

[frogluver]

If one frog has vitamin deficiency and another has vitamin toxicity, do both frogs display the same kinds of symptoms or do they have completely different symptoms? I have been reading about vitamin toxicity and deficiency in frogs and have become quite confused, as one article states that it was hard to tell the two apart as they have very similar symptoms. Can somebody please tell me how to tell these two nutritional disorders apart and what the symptoms are of each?

[BG]

Repashy is the best, i also like reptical . The other stuff is to thick and dosn;t stick to the food.

[Sublime]

From what I've read on a few sites that the symptoms of,

Vitamin deficiency:

Swelling around eyes and mouth
Nasal discharge
Stomatitis (inflammation of the lining of mouth)
Weakness
Loss of appetite; weight loss
Decreased growth rate
Can be fatal in severe cases

Vitamin Toxicity (Leading to organ failure if not treated):

Weight loss
Anorexia
Lethargy
Swollen or distended abdomen
Frequent urination
Rapid dehydration
Constipation
Thickened and yellowing urates
Gross reduction in interactive responses

I mean as long as you're not supplementing your frog with vitamins more than once a week not including your every now and then 2:1 ratio calcium/phosphorus supplement you're not going to run into overdoses. You would really have to be just everyday excessively dusting food. But what do I know, I'm just a new member.

[kueluck]

I have read that young frogs should be given supplements daily. Is this correct? At what age is a frog considered to be adult for supplement purposes. Does this also apply to toads?

[Sublime]

Calcium supplement can be given every other day, vitamin supplements should be given once a week.

[kueluck]

Thanks Mark for the info. I'm like a worried ol' mother hen with my frogs and toads. At times I think I should just let them go back outside, but then they are just sooo much fun to have in the house.

[Sublime]

Yeah, I understand. Take it easy.

[frogluver]

From what I've read on a few sites that the symptoms of,

Vitamin deficiency:

Swelling around eyes and mouth
Nasal discharge
Stomatitis (inflammation of the lining of mouth)
Weakness
Loss of appetite; weight loss
Decreased growth rate
Can be fatal in severe cases

Vitamin Toxicity (Leading to organ failure if not treated):

Weight loss
Anorexia
Lethargy
Swollen or distended abdomen
Frequent urination
Rapid dehydration
Constipation
Thickened and yellowing urates
Gross reduction in interactive responses

I mean as long as you're not supplementing your frog with vitamins more than once a week not including your every now and then 2:1 ratio calcium/phosphorus supplement you're not going to run into overdoses. You would really have to be just everyday excessively dusting food. But what do I know, I'm just a new member.

Thank you for the information. I just have one more question, if you don't mind. Do they both result in spasms and bone loss?

[Sublime]

Thank you for the information. I just have one more question, if you don't mind. Do they both result in spasms and bone loss?

Yes, hypovitaminosis (deficiency) can result in MBD causing bone loss. The spasms can be caused by symptoms of MBD. Hypervitaminosis (toxicity) has similar symptoms with hypovitaminosis, but more than likely will be caused in deficiency of vitamins, improper ratio of calcium-phosphorus, inadequate nutrition in the frog. So no from my understanding, it will most likely result in deficiency and not toxicity.