Vertical Conversion of “Zilla Critter Keeper” for tree frogs

It sounds as if she is ! I sure hope so! How exciting would that be?

Originally Posted by Heatheranne

It sounds as if she is ! I sure hope so! How exciting would that be?

I think so Heather. She looks great ! It has been really, really hard work. Her company is coming tomorrow !!!!
I will be months, though, until they can join her. I will need a clean fecal before even thinking about putting them in with her!
Have a great day. Thank you for all of your kind thoughts!

I have been off all of last week. Today will be a nightmare!!!!! Yuck !

Lynn :flybyferns:

She really is beautiful and you have been more than patient and have given her such tedious loving care . You're a great mom!

It is my pleasure to share such much needed emotional support. I think it's needed sometimes. Especially here, when others just don't understand how we care about our frogs. They are pets to us, not just frogs in tanks .

I can hardly wait to see your new babies !

Back to work? Or back to froggie mothering?

Great work!!!!

I think, I am truly out of the woods !!!
"Boggie" has hunted for her own food 3 time in the past week.
Last night she ate 2 crickets. Imagine that !

Yay!!!!

Originally Posted by Heatheranne

Yay!!!!

Thanks Heath,
She ate again last night . She had a ball chasing a wax worm moth around her enclosure.
I watched her catch it!
I still can not believe she went more then an 7 weeks w/out hunting for her own food.
I had a feeling she was on the mend when I started to see her- still up - again in the morning.
I get up 5:30-- 6 am. ; she was always- still up- when she was w/ the red eyes.
This behavior rarely ever occurred in her new enclosure until 2 weeks ago.
I learned a lot form all of this.

We know changing their environment is extremely stressful; but more specifically, if the environment they are in at the time is NOT stressful to them, I think it makes the adjustment worse? I don't know if it is possible, but the "community" within the enclosure must create responses ,behaviors, reactions they become very used to. As a result of moving her ( alone) dynamics within her enclosure changed radically and abruptly. In retrospect her activity was definitively affected by the move. As if she were sulking? I don't think she simply became ill. Her "illness" ( ie no appetite and diarrhea) was an opportunistic one because of the stress of a very different environment regarding population. Other forum members, I highly respect, kept ( politely) telling me it had to be "something else". ie temp/ humidity? All the parameters w/in her enclosure were as identical as a human could make them, right down to plant inventory, automatic misting , lighting etc.

Have a great weekend? I hope you have some holiday time off w/ your family.

I was thinking , maybe someday we could meet at he Hamburg show in PA?
That would be a long drive/east for you though, as it's near Allentown. It is about 3 1/2- 4 hr drive for me w/ the usual NY/ NJ traffic.
We could buy lunch for Novy !!!!
And you could buy more frogs !!!!!!!!!! : excitement:

They are really worth all of the hard work !!!!

Sleeping Beauty

Today - 11:15 am

Whoohooo !!!!
The Boggster ate 3 crickets last night !!

Lynn, I absolutely agree! I really think that lack of socialization that she had with the red eyes (friends) caused stress for her. We both know they communicate . I am sooo happy she's eating again !!!

I have a feeling once they adjust to one another they'll all be happy .

(Not the same species...but my pacs were acting funny recently. Eating less and bouncing off the adjacent walls of their tanks, which are about a foot apart. They'd make clicking noises. I finally tested it out, though a little leery they would fight. Nope, not even close...they hopped close to each, first with my hand between them, and made clicking noises. Both were then completely relaxed . Wa laa! aAnd they are not even considered a social species like some tree frogs. )

They are all beautiful! And you've been very patient with Boggie. I have no doubt others would have lost her through her illness phase. Great job!

That'd would be a blast! I'd love to! We'll have to check out dates for the next show. Lunch with Mike would be fun too.

We'd have to bring our photo albums, haha!

Waiting for company.
I'm ticking to my plan!

6/1/2012



6/1/2012

Happy Ending !!!
Eating regularly.
Yesterday 5:30am - going back to bed !

Well "Boggie" continues to do really , really well---- readily feeding on her own.
BUT !!!
I cannot believe what I just heard !!!

Yes--- three little consecutive ( A. moreletii ) chirps.

Is it possible? I have had her for greater than 2 years and have never heard a peep?

Haha! Maybe "he" can sense his new friends and is calling to them? How cute! A croaking frog is a happy frog .

Have you heard any more Boggie chirps?

I sure have!
Every night since.
Plus- HE has nuptial pads, Heath!



I am searching for something to determine the exact date I purchased him( as a sub-adult)?
I have written in more that one spot it was......11/09.
I have a feeling I actually have the year mixed up.
I am positive:
1- I have never heard him call
2- I have never seen nuptial pads

Maturity wise, 11/10 makes more sense to me. Time flies !!!!!!!
I will have to search emails to my son as I always share things like that with him.

I bought a new exo for the balck eyes !!!! They will be needing more space when the babies are w/ the Boggster!

That is sooo awesome!
Congrats!!!

Which exo terra did you choose?

Originally Posted by Heatheranne

Which exo terra did you choose?

Heath,
I purchased the exo 36H x 24w . Good deal- I bribed my local herp joint. ( $229 )
The planters have been up for 11 days( silicone is finally dry !) the smell is gone.
I just need to mist it really well and give it the sniff test again.
The painting is done. The plants are detoxified .
Boggie will move in this weekend. No adjustment period expected.
It is as identical as possible. ( except 6 1/2" wider and 2 " deeper.
The screen top will be sooooooo much better!
The vertical conversion, in my opinion, is difficult to properly ventilate.
This weekend will be perfect as the temp in the basement will be 78 F.
They will all eventually need the room.
In fact, they should probably be in the 36 x36 where the red eyes are; but i'm not going to dare do that!!
I am adding an additional ( single) mist head.
My super-duper fabric substrate is cut, washed an ready to go!
( I found 2 new patterns--- leaves and sticks!!!) soft leaves and sticks lol

I just need ( muscles) to help me move it.
Talk to you soon !

Lynn