daydreaming

ok my kassina maculata has not eaten for 4 days now and the crickets are not being touched.
i have also noticed she has become more of a light grey colour rathen then darker grey.
im not sure if i am over worrying or not.
i have not had the light on for the last week and a half, i realise with some frogs this can be a factor in apperance changes.
also we have been having a bit of a heat wave so at the moment the temp for the tank ranges during the day between 73-78 and during the night it only just changes to 69-72.
i am misting 3 times a day and they have plenty of fresh water to cool down in.
the top of the tank is mesh so plenty of ventilation and when i get home in the evenings i have my front room windows wide open to allow air to circulate through the whole of my flat.
humidity is ranging between 38-45 im struggling to get it any higher at the moment but i also have a problem as i am using a electronic themometer and dont know if its reading the correct information as it has a sensor you place inside the tank i admit the frog has sat on it a few times.
during the day it hides i have no idea where and in the evenings she is moving around and she does move from one place to another.
i have tried her with crickets and have offered her wax worms but she wont take the worms but she would never go near the mealworms if im honest.
in every other sense she seems fine but she just has not eaten and im getting worried.
any help or advice appreciated. i also better mention i have never seen her actually eat but crickets have gone and i handled her last night and she is fast and not lacking in any other way. i will also do an update tonight when she comes out.

lraulston

I don't know what to tell you, I hope she starts eating! I'm sure someone will chime in before long. Hang in there!

John

I think this is a case for SuperKurt or perhaps one of the vets. The fact that she is still moving around in the evenings is a good sign though.

Have you tried her with any other foods?

daydreaming

at the moment only the crickets and wax worms but the pet shop in the town i live in is closed for a week so its crickets or wax worms.

i have put the light on today in hope that it makes some kind of difference

John

Perhaps it's not warm enough? You should be able to get locusts in the UK - frogs seem to like those more than crickets. Of course, you can't get locusts in warm countries since they pose a pest problem.

Kurt

No need to panic at this point. Has the frog ever been treated for gastrointestinal parasites? That could be part of the problem, if there is a problem. If it doesn't eat by Sunday take it to a vet. If you can bring a fresh fecal sample, no more then 24 hours old.
I think your tempertures are fine, the humity could be higher. Misting the living **** out of the cage should help. And if you change the substrate to sphagnum moss, that will help too as it is pretty good at holding on to moisture.
So in conclusion, my guess is it's either GI parasites and/or too low of a humity. Then again, there may not even be a problem.

daydreaming

i have mixed the soil with moss so its about 70% soil and 30% moss i noticed before the crickets would hide in the moss so i just mixed it with the soil to it was easier to find any dead ones.

i need to invest in a better fogger i did get the exo small fogger but i have found that is it not that great.

what one would you recommend. i am on a budget as some i have seen are about £80

so far she has not been out but once she is i will watch her for a bit and see how she is behaving im hoping the light will have helped with the colour change.
there is just not enough information about the particular species.
everything i have found just seems to controdict each other. so its been more or less try and error so far.

Kurt

I have never used a fogger. I rely on sphagnum moss and never have been disappointed. A large water bowl will help too.

daydreaming

YouTube - Kassina Maculata Coppia
just found this video on youtube and mine is the same colour as both this person owns so im thinking the colour change is no longer a problem just the eating side is a problem

how do i make a feeding box maybe if i try that some how it would help and then at least i can work out what she is prepared to eat and what she wont eat.

also just found out i have 2 male Whites Tree Frog as one of the "girls" has just started croaking

Kurt

I use a Rubbermaid box to feed my white's in. Its fine for them, but it is not all frogs. Example - I wouldn't use it with a strictly nocturnal species that is heavily dependent on access to water, like Agalychnis callidryas. I would only use it with frogs that readily feed regardless of time of day, like White's or gray treefrogs.

I would leave the frog where he/she is and I might change the substrate to sphagnum to help to keep the humidity up.

daydreaming

ok i will go in the shop at the weekend and pick up some more moss
i have just ordered some smaller crickets, locusts, fruit flies, earth worms from an online live food delievery company so i will try these just to see if it makes any difference.

i have never fed them earth worms or wingless fruit flies would you recommend a few every couple of days or do that not make much difference i know the wax worms are mainly fattening so its a treat but what about worms and flies

Kurt

Earth worms are fine, I would think that fruit flies may be too small for them. However, my tomato frogs will eat any bug regardless of size, including fruit flies. Maybe your Kassina will as well. If you do use the flies keep in mind that they can walk up any surface. So, if the mesh on your enclosre is not tight enough, they just might walk away on you. I use paper towels in between the top and the bottom of my critter keepers and/or tanks with amphbians I feed fruit flies too. That list includes my blue poison dart frog, cave salamanders, red-banded rubber frogs, West African rubber frogs, western green toad, clown treefrogs, and red-eyed leaf froglets.

justin shockey

i think you will be fine

lraulston

how is she doing? ever eat for you?