Gray Treefrog / Hyla versicolor and H chrysoscelis caresheet

Originally Posted by petebuster1

I strongly suspect ive probably only (until recently) purchased wc ones,with a lot of stressful travelling on top and still no problem. I doubt very many are cb over here,i have finally found one breeder but thats it.But if i had newly captive ones that weren't eating, i suspect it would be because they are overly stressed (not that they seem overly sensitive) and would let them go back to their natural habitat if i happened to live not too far from the same area.

I was talking about wild caught only. I'm from Europe - I know how it works with regard to American species. In fact I used to live in England and was very friendly with British Herpetological Supply. The ones that get to you after being recently wild caught have been in captivity for a while - those that didn't eat were probably dead before they reached the UK, or on their way out.

Catching my own tree frogs in the wild, I've found that many freak out when faced with a prey item on the end of a forceps - for example they will leap straight into the tank wall to get away from it or even onto you. Those same frogs will eat when placed in a margarine tub for an hour with food items (with the top closed). Some will hunt food down in their terrarium but when they share that terrarium with others that are not afraid, they rarely get to the food first.

I don't have 20 years of experience but I have spent quite some time observing these animals in the wild and more recently in captivity.

Originally Posted by John

I was talking about wild caught only. I'm from Europe - I know how it works with regard to American species. In fact I used to live in England and was very friendly with British Herpetological Supply. The ones that get to you after being recently wild caught have been in captivity for a while - those that didn't eat were probably dead before they reached the UK, or on their way out.

Catching my own tree frogs in the wild, I've found that many freak out when faced with a prey item on the end of a forceps - for example they will leap straight into the tank wall to get away from it or even onto you. Those same frogs will eat when placed in a margarine tub for an hour with food items (with the top closed). Some will hunt food down in their terrarium but when they share that terrarium with others that are not afraid, they rarely get to the food first.

I don't have 20 years of experience but I have spent quite some time observing these animals in the wild and more recently in captivity.

i think i'd freak out if someone stuck food in my face when i'm used to hunting for it all i'm saying is imo there is no need for the tub they should eat of their own accord in a near natural enviroment,enough food will walk into their line of fire, if not better to take them back to where you caught them.They are better off in the wild and it does bother me when i see greys and others available here and wonder how many didn't make it.

This care sheet helped me raise four gray treefrogs from newly hatched tadpoles this past summer.

I noticed that no matter how much I worked to keep all the conditions ideal while they were growing that some were just not meant to make it. One tadpole went through metamorphosis very quickly and is now just under two inches long. The other three grew a little slower and haven't grown as quickly as the other. One even has a weird half underbite but other than that is perfectly healthy.

I had some tadpoles that took forever to change. They were extremely small froglets and had trouble eating.

Originally Posted by SirIvy

I noticed that no matter how much I worked ... some were just not meant to make it

This is absolutely true, unfortunately, and perfectly natural. Nature tries different approaches for each tadpole but many are failures.

Just an FYI, I caught a wild Grey this year for the first time. I see the comments on feeding and with my brief experience with my Grey he does fine finding food in his tank with no help or feeding with tweezers. he adapted to captivity almost overnight and seem very happy. I just drop the food in his feed bowl, where sometimes he will wait there to be feed. what ever crawls out he hunts down at night or the next day.I do feed him wild caught moths,crickets, and any other small bugs i find as a treat, never any problems. Same diet he would have in the wild. I live on a large piece of property and don't use pesticides so i see no harm. I would not recommend wild caught food for close urban property's. Main diet of meal worms. He lives in a water/land tank with filtered water and live Safe for frogs plants. no water bowl. Hope this helps on feeding for anyone reading.

I would feed him a little bit more than mealworms.

What else do you recommend besides meal worms and and the occasional store bought crickets,Darkling Beatles and wild insects i listed before? This would be good to know because there are no wild bugs to catch in the winter.

I was thinking crickets. I figured by your response that you are already using them. I would use them much more frequently than mealworms. They should be the staple food. You can also use cockroaches and earthworms of the appropriate size. You can also use waxworms occasionally, but not too much, they are high in fat count. You can also let waxworms mature into moths, treefrogs LOVE moths!!!

Just make sure to gut load your crickets 24 hours before feeding them to your frogs.
I think so far as care sheets go, this one is great. Very in depth.

Excellent.







chevrolet 2000 wheel bearing
short sale realtor

Hi

I have 4 gray tree frogs an I was thinking about starting a community tank. Does any one have any ideas for plants, fish, and reptiles that could coexist well with each other and the gray tree frogs.

Thanks

Originally Posted by Lady Leean

Hi

I have 4 gray tree frogs an I was thinking about starting a community tank. Does any one have any ideas for plants, fish, and reptiles that could coexist well with each other and the gray tree frogs.

Thanks

You should post this in a new thread under tree frogs=)

But to help you out a bit #1 Rule NEVER MIX BREEDS (most Frogs including Greys have toxins that are harmful to other species)
also make sure your tank is large enough for 4 frogs ... rule to try and go by is 1 Frog per 10 Gallons.

I have a 18x18x24 exo terra that im allowed up to 4 greys because they are slightly smaller frog breed.

Also I hear pothos is one of the best and least likely to die terrarium plants =)
I currently only have plastic plants, some vines, hiding log, and I magnetic rock perch up high.. oo and a water dish of course for bathing.

Hope that Helps!
http://www.frogforum.net/frog-toad-c...heet-Info.html

If you havent read the link above its amazing and helpful!

Originally Posted by John

Our fourth care and information sheet is for the two species of Gray Treefrog, Hyla versicolor and H. chrysoscelis. It was written by Kurt Kunze and myself. It can be found here. The breeding section is still being written as of Friday June 26th 2009. Thanks to Johnny Farnen for the lovely Hyla chrysoscelis photo.

Please use this thread to discuss/debate/argue/change the care and information sheet.

Hi, John!
What a wonderful lot of information! My grey tree frogs are wild, but they have perched on a chair on our deck for the past three summers. The first two summers
it was (from your description) a female. This summer it has been another, smaller one, so I presume it is a male. Now, in October, we have had a tiny one, about 1/2" long, occasionally, and today, another one, a male, I guess. We haven't fed them. I would like to prepare an outdoor shelter for for the winter. Any suggestions?
Thanks, Lorianne

It's not really practical. They will bury themselves in the soil under leaf litter. I would leave them to it.