red eye questions

My Red-Eyed Leaf Frog sat in the same exact spot for 8 days straight, no movement, did not eat and so on after I got him. I moved him from Quarantine to his enclosure and he did not move from Sunday to Thursday. Now he is active, hunting and bathing as normal. I do not have a lot of experience with RETFs so far but from what I can tell is they sleep off the stress. Someboday correct me if I am wrong but I think there is nothing to worry about.

Originally Posted by eric048

I got a female red eye and I have had her in quarantine for a few days now, i'm afraid she's not eating, she sleeps all day and doesn't move from that spot at night.... she won't even respond to me misting her, when I mist my male he opens his eyes and spreads out to get soaked.... she doesn't even move is she sick

Hi Eric,
She'll be okay. Sleeping beauty needs her rest.
I think it would be best not to mist directly
Maybe this is something other red eye owners do? don't know.
I don't though . Don't you think it could frighten them?
Plus, if it wakes a frog up = they have been disturbed.

Soon enough, she will be 'hanging out' !
Are you happy w/ the temp and humidity settings?
Lynn

Originally Posted by helm96

My Red-Eyed Leaf Frog sat in the same exact spot for 8 days straight, no movement, did not eat and so on after I got him. I moved him from Quarantine to his enclosure and he did not move from Sunday to Thursday. Now he is active, hunting and bathing as normal. I do not have a lot of experience with RETFs so far but from what I can tell is they sleep off the stress. Someboday correct me if I am wrong but I think there is nothing to worry about.

I've had a grey tree frog do almost the same thing, and normally grey tree frogs will eat on their first day in a new home. Some frogs are just more easily stressed than others, and this seems to be their way of coping with it.


Eric, if your frog doesn't start moving around in the next two weeks there is probably something in the new home that's stressing your frog out. Rather, it's probably a LACK of something. Perhaps there aren't enough hide places? Are all sides of the tank exposed? If so, try covering the sides and back with a dark colored paper. Are you using a heat lamp? Is your frog too cold?

I have a black heat light temp is mid 70's drops to mid 60s at night humidity 90% there's fake plants stuck to all 3 sides, the first night I got my male he was very active which is why I am worried about her

I'm new to red eyes also, but I'd suggest warming it up a little bit. My two frogs seem to like it around 70-75 at night and lower 80's in the day.

Originally Posted by eric048

I have a black heat light temp is mid 70's drops to mid 60s at night humidity 90% there's fake plants stuck to all 3 sides, the first night I got my male he was very active which is why I am worried about her

Let me first say, I think you're fine. Mine did the same thing. He ate as soon as he got here (probably hungry from his trip) and then slept for a week without moving.

However, just for the sake of suggestions.... your humidity seems high, and maybe the temp needs a slight boost. Ideal humidity range is 60-90% with some variation within that range. The enclosure should have periods of high humidity and be allowed to get a little more arid before fogging/misting again. I don't mist directly onto my frogs BUT I have a fogger, and my red eye likes to sleep in the upper corner of the enclosure right under the fogger tube AND the heat lamp. My enclosure stays at 80-85 degrees during the day (temp taken mid-height, so probably 90 or 95 right up under the lamp), and I don't heat at night because we keep our home at 75 degrees year round (and the frogs are in the warmest room in the house at that).

Also, make sure you're feeding at night in the dark or under a red or moon light. My red eye doesn't like to perform and unless the food is just TOO tempting, he won't eat in front of me, but as soon as I turn my back to leave I hear him pounce and turn around to see him sitting where the food once was, often still chewing.

Originally Posted by tydis

I'm new to red eyes also, but I'd suggest warming it up a little bit. My two frogs seem to like it around 70-75 at night and lower 80's in the day.

I agree. I know nothing about red eyes, but your temps sound a bit low, Eric. Try increasing them a bit, and see if that helps. Maybe aim for a slightly lower humidity, as well? 90% seems really high. (NOTE: If I'm wrong I apologize. You should do research about your frogs before taking anything I say into consideration.)

Originally Posted by eric048

I have a black heat light temp is mid 70's drops to mid 60s at night humidity 90% there's fake plants stuck to all 3 sides, the first night I got my male he was very active which is why I am worried about her

I think 90% humidity is too high

My red eye tree frog viv settings are:
Day temps 78-82 F
night temp- 71-75 F
Humidity- ( minimum 65%) 70% to 80% - I do not exceed 82 % humidity

It's also always a good idea to have variations within the enclosure... a "wet" side and a "dry" side, a "warm" upper region near heatlamps and cooler lower region. All should be within the recommended range for the species, but that way your frog can decide how they like it and spend the most time in that area. I have different species in one large enclosure, and that technique has worked very well for me. My Red-Eyed Leaf Frog stays at the warm/wet quadrant and my White's stays in the cooler/arid quadrant. Everyone's happy.

Originally Posted by Sissy Anne

It's also always a good idea to have variations within the enclosure... a "wet" side and a "dry" side, a "warm" upper region near heatlamps and cooler lower region. All should be within the recommended range for the species, but that way your frog can decide how they like it and spend the most time in that area. I have different species in one large enclosure, and that technique has worked very well for me. My Red-Eyed Leaf Frog stays at the warm/wet quadrant and my White's stays in the cooler/arid quadrant. Everyone's happy.

Sissy ,Batten the hatches!

"I have different species in one large enclosure, and that technique has worked very well for me. "

Lol okay and I feed all my frogs using the glass bowl method so I know exactly how many she ate or didn't eat, the warmest room in my house has the other frogs in it and I want her separate from them, I put in the black heat bulb I'll mist less often then

Originally Posted by flybyferns

Sissy ,Batten the hatches!

"I have different species in one large enclosure, and that technique has worked very well for me. "

Glad I was not the only one who seen that and said wait a second!

Originally Posted by helm96

Glad I was not the only one who seen that and said wait a second!

did I miss something? Lol... I have a White's and a Red-Eyed Leaf Frog in one enclosure. No worries, it's plenty large and I keep all specs within both species' ideal ranges. And the Beardie has his own enclosure. Lol.

Smh guess you never got the memo....

It's actually not advisable to mix species in one enclosure, no matter how large.

Well, I had heard it's not ideal but that was after they'd been roomies for a year. I checked with my exotics vet, she wasn't concerned, and they've lived together for years now and are both thriving and very healthy.

Originally Posted by Sissy Anne

Well, I had heard it's not ideal but that was after they'd been roomies for a year. I checked with my exotics vet, she wasn't concerned, and they've lived together for years now and are both thriving and very healthy.

Sissy,
Searched for you :
Keyword(s): mixing, species

http://www.frogforum.net/search.php?searchid=380274

Hope this helps
Lynn

U must have a really small white or a really big red eye I'm surprised they haven't eaten each other

Yea, I think I would have noticed that... Lol. My White's is male and on the small end of the scale, whereas my Red-Eyed Leaf Frog is female and on the larger end of the scale. Side by side the Red-Eyed Leaf Frog is about 2/3 the size of the Whites in length snout to vent. Now, my understanding is that any frog will eat any other frog, some more apt to do so than others, and a frog doesn't have to be larger to eat another frog, just hungry. BUT, they're very well fed and I watch them at night and I haven't seen anything disconcerting. Like I said, I actually take my herps to the vet for check-ups, which in my experience most herp owners don't regularly do, and if two different vets have told me that they're healthy and happy than I'm not stressing about it. I have plans for new enclosures, separating the frogs to give my Red-Eyed Leaf Frog a more arboreal enclosure (those cylinder towers) and expand my Red-Eyed Leaf Frog collection with some color variants/albinos at that time (leaving the White's in his own enclosure or maybe getting him a girlfriend). In the meantime, I keep a very close eye on them and haven't witnessed anything concerning.