Hey all. Been along time since I was last active. So my friend is getting me a fire bellied toad and want to know if I can put it with my American. I know fire bellieds are toxic, but not sure if it affects toads. Thanks in advance.
Bufo americanus - Salazar (male)
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Hey
I wouldn't. For one, although I've not kept American toads I have read they will prefer cooler temperatures than Oriental fire-bellied toads. American toads temperature range being 60-70oF, whilst the fire-bellied toads will prefer around 78oF during the day. The other reason being that both are from different countries so could possibly transfer pathogens that the other animal would not be immune to. Also, fire-bellied toads toxins are somewhat strong, when cleaning out the water you can even feel a little tinkle, so this may harm the American toad.
You can easy set up the fire-bellied toad in a seperate 10-gallon aquarium with a screen top, which should house 3-4, preferably three. I would recommend a 20-gallon for long term housing though. Keep them groups, they're quite communal. Here's some really good info on their care: http://www.amphibian.co.uk/bombina.html
Last edited by jasonm96; April 16th, 2016 at 08:04 AM.
No. Like the previous reasons Jason mentioned, there are a couple more care differences, mostly the American toad possibly being large enough to eat the fairly small Bombina frogs. (Even if it isn't, it could try to) Also, Bombina frogs are semi-aquatic, needing large amounts of water and land, whereas toads are almost always strictly terrestrial except breeding season. Also, you may already know this, but some UVB lighting would be beneficial for all of them, ask Jason for the specifics, as he really is a good member and knows what type of lighting you need for each respective species. Here are some care-sheets and articles if you have not seen most of them already: http://www.frogforum.net/content.php...ytes-Pelobates http://www.frogforum.net/content.php...-and-relatives http://www.caudata.org/cc/articles/M...isasters.shtml http://www.caudata.org/cc/articles/cyclingEDK.shtml http://www.caudata.org/cc/articles/foods.shtml http://www.caudata.org/cc/articles/worms2.shtml
Thanks for the replies. Didnt think i could house them together. Always good to double check.
Bufo americanus - Salazar (male)
R.I.P Coco
No problem, If you're getting your fire-bellied toad I would recommend getting a small group and I would read Popular Amphibians by Phillippe de Vosjoli, very good source and instructive book on how to set them up. Bombina orientalis are very enjoyable to keep, they're the most diurnal of the bombina species, they often bask under heat lamps or UVB sources and make great displays.
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