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    This will be getting revamped also. When I create the stream idea for my other tank, that bin in my tank now will have all the plants in it for this. It's big enough for more plants. So this in around 3 months can look way better. I am hoping to make it deeper with water, more plants, some type of mister. It is just the beginning for this.


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    Some cool pictures of the tank this morning


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    Looking to get some tropical plants that can live in water besides pothos and lucky bamboo. Any suggestions?


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    So near the end of 2016 I will be moving the Tropical setup to a 55 gallon. I will not be buying any extra animals except some tetras maybe. I feel my tree frogs need more space. So this will be the next project after the 75 Gallon is to my liking


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    This might end up being a big setup or Paludarium depending on what fish are used. Brock is very sick right now. The tree frogs however are doing fantastic


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    I heard White's are poor swimmers and could actually drown quite easily. Isn't this true or doesn't it cause a problem as long as the frogs can climb on land quite easily?

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    They actually love to soak in the water, it has not posed a problem with the frogs. There are many places to climb out of the water in the Viv.


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    My white's used to swim laps in their pool nightly. Lol. The poor swimmer thing is one of those internet rumors that nobody can actually prove. It's always 'I read about someone who said....' With the exception of someone who I could verify their dart froglets drowned because the water feature was heavily loaded with duckweed and couldn't get out of the water due to that, I could not find one verified instance of a frog drowning in a water feature.


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    I've noticed White's have trouble climbing wet glass sometimes or wet ceramic. As long as they have something they can get a grip on to climb out of the water adult frogs will probably be okay.

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    I noticed that the female is an Indonesia Whites and the male is an Australian Whites. I never paid attention until last night. Brock is recovering and is going back in the Vivarium tonight. He is one resilient Betta Fish!


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    How can you tell if they are Indonesian/Australian? I thought you couldn't

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    The color pigmentation of the frogs I know are the only way. Australian ones have blue and are a bluish green and the Indonesian frogs are kind of like a lime green. I was reading some articles and stumbled on it a few nights ago.


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    A good many of the CB White's are a cross between Aussie and Indo too, unless the breeder specifically says the line is pure. Most Indos are likely going to be WC (unless they are juvies, but all Aussie will be CB. Indos are a bit lankier and pointier in the face from what I can tell, while Aussies are rounder and more dumpy in appearance. The Indo does have a bright clear green while Aussies have that distinct sea foam green tint that can be bluish at times. I believe I read that the Indos were the ones that can get up to 5" in size (females) while Aussies were a bit smaller.
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    The one I believe to be Indonesian is a female and matched the discription you posted. She is captive, I got her at about an inch so she was young when I got her. I can say that neither have been through puberty yet either. Sad news on Brock: after the battle that he overcame he was put back in the tank but he accidentally jammed himself in a place I couldn't find him until it was too late. When I upgrade the Whites to the 75 Gallon, I will put a Betta in the water part. I loved it. I'm going to use a 5 gallon and burry it so the fish won't get stuck and the frogs most likely won't be interested.


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    After plenty of thought, I am going to move the Whites to a 55 gallon soon. I will be bringing back a Betta Fish. 70-30 Water to Land, I will have plenty of plants for the frogs to climb and a pump along with their own misting system and fogger. This is set to be very impressive and will be very different than past looks and will be very different than the 75 Gallon PA Woods Vivarium. Sorry for all the confusion about tanks, I have made a decision now! Updates soon


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    This will be the last post on this thread by me because I am going to create a new thread. I am going to attempt a Paludarium with my White's. I will be discussing the build along with the animals, plants, lights, and so on. Please follow the next thread as it will be much more interesting and will be more consistent. Thanks!


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    Can't wait to see the new enclosure!

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    Checkout the new storyline for the White's Tree Frogs

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