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    The more I'm researching the varadero's the more I'm starting to like them. Maybe it's just my Colorado roots coming out, but an orange frog with blue legs? Yes please! My PCF's are named Atwater and Elway if you need another example to see where I'm going with this.

    Back to business. I've always been into the smaller frogs from the beginning, with thumbnails and mantellas at the top of my list. There are two big hurdles for me to get over. First would be their rumored difficulty in keeping, especially for a dart newbie. Second, the dart frog project was to be a joint venture with my wife, and auratus being her frog of choice. But since she brought home a pacman last weekend, I think I may get a little more of a vote towards this one.

    The varaderos are number two on my frog bucket list, and inching their way to the top. This is mostly due to a chance meeting of a local breeder with tadpoles.

    I've tried to talk myself out of thumbnails while looking into other darts, but I keep coming back to them. My questions are the same as most of my other posts. Pretty much looking for advice about thumbnails, varadero in particular. Any "hands on" experience with these frogs, pros, cons, their personalities. I'm looking for the stuff that you CAN'T find in Google, your personal stories and opinions.

    Also, please feel free to let me know if I'm not making a good decision by starting off with these frogs.

    Thank you for any advice

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    Varadero are a sweet little thumbnail. I can tell you from experience to make sure your tank is 100% escape free. They do not need much space to get out. Mine escaped when the sliding vents on the top of their Exo moved, leaving about a 1/4" opening. That was all the room they needed.

    Otherwise, care for them is pretty straight forward. They do like to climb, so a tall tank would be welcomed by them.


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    Thanks Bill.

    Would a 20h or 20h converted be sufficient height for a pair? or even a 10 gallon vert.?

    Other than their escape attempts, any other helpful advice? Do you think they are hardy enough of a frog for me to begin with?

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    A 20h would work for them. A little big for a pair, but it would definitely work. I would probably go with the converted 10 though.

    As far as keeping them, they are a piece of cake. Keep their temps right and feed well, and you'll have no issues. I think they list them as "intermediate" due to breeding is a bit harder. But as far as general care goes, they are easy.


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    Would a 20long vert conversion be OK with a little extra height, or just stick with the 10?

    Thanks again Bill. Once I get the OK from the wife of AbranV aka Jody. I'll start getting the build together.

    I'm happy that I've finally settled on a frog. Now the real fun begins.

    BTW Bill, I went to a nursery today and started making a plant list. I'm going to be seeing you over on the plant forum with a ton of questions

    Thanks again

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    Default Re: R. Imitator "Varadero" advice needed

    Hi Jody,
    Hmmmm this is a tricky decision.
    I agree w Billy, either will be ok.

    As bill mentioned they are escape artists.
    A 20 may allow for that little additional room for you when going in an out?
    This is especially true w a vertical conversion vs and exo terra.

    They will learn where the door is .... Little rascals !

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