My gray tree frog doesn't trust me anymore!

[LilyPad]

Dace, I have one male that will go a week without eating during cooler temps. This winter, I actually put a heat lamp on to help keep his appetite up a bit even though they can survive easily in the cooler temps. He never goes long enough to lose noticeable weight though. The girls will eat as much as you put in front of them, but the males tend to only eat until they're full. They also eat less if they're stressed, I'd skip the honey baths unless you notice signs of illness. Taking him out to bath him might make him less apt to eat. If the feeders are a little bigger than they should be, it'll take time for them to digest.

Also, it's absolutely necessary to have a water bowl with greys. In the wild, you will find them coming down from trees to soak. I tend to see them on bird baths and other places to get a nice soak going. They prefer to use their water bowls as a toilet also. I have a decent size water area in my grey tank that they will actually swim through in the evenings.

[Dace]

That makes sense... This weekend, when temps were approaching the 80's, I fed him a rather large earthworm in addition to his normal roaches right before a storm came and temperatures dropped to the 40's at night, no wonder he's not eating.
in case you didn't notice, I have in fact added water bowls to both frog enclosures. Only the adult male in question appears to use it, but generally it's when he's calling. The juveniles, on the other hand, I have seen no evidence of them ever setting foot in their. No poop or even dirt tracked through it. One time I opened the lid and spooked one into jumping. This was at night after a misting. He landed in the water bowl and scrambled out like a cat.do you have any grays that enjoy swimming, that aren't breeding adults?

[LilyPad]

Yes, I see that you added the bowls, I just wanted you to understand that they're absolutely necessary. Even if they don't take the time to soak, it still helps add/maintain humidity in the tank and gives the option should the humidity drop for some reason. I can't really recall whether or not Atlas (male) used his water dish as a juvenile, but Paddy (female) did regularly and still does. None of them are cycled to breed and all 3 still use it regularly, especially after a big meal. My old frog (m, Silvermist, recently passed away due to old age) used to sit in it more often than out of it! He really loved it!

[Dace]

Ugh... Actually there is something wrong with him. He did start eating again after the temperatures rose, but he would only eat one feeder at a time. Then he stopped accepting dubias and would only take moths, then he stopped accepting moths from my fingers and would only eat them loose in his cage. Now he's not eating at all. I saw him shedding and tried gently pushing a de- appendaged crane fly into his open mouth but he spat it out. He isn't sitting on the ground or anything, but he is sitting on the glass during the day more than usual and his colors aren't their best. He has been calling a lot and doesn't seem to be lethargic.
EDIT
also I found poop today, presumably from the moths he ate 2< days ago.

[Dace]

Would a honey bath be a good idea or is it not worth the stress it'll cause him?

[victorsgrace]

De-stress him (!) and take him by a vet.

If all is fine with the vet, leave him be.

They don't feed while molding and force feeding is always super stressfull...


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[privet01]

Is this the same frog you originally wrote about in March? If so, it might be you that's stressing it out so much. Leave it alone. It'll eat when it wants to. Just ensure food and water is available and the viv habitat suitable.

[Dace]

No, this is not the same frog! They original frog I started this thread about has recovered completely and is now my best eater, in fact he's doubled in size since march.
I started a new thread about this frog.

[Dace]

De-stress him (!) and take him by a vet.

If all is fine with the vet, leave him be.

They don't feed while molding and force feeding is always super stressfull...


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how exactly does one "de- stress" a frog? Do you mean just leave him alone?

what do you mean, "molding"?

[ColleenT]

how exactly does one "de- stress" a frog? Do you mean just leave him alone?

what do you mean, "molding"?

To de-stress, you turn off all lights, cover the tank so it's dark for a few days and he meant stop HOLDing the frog.

[Dace]

I dont handle him...

[monster]

Im pretty sure he meant they don't eat while shedding(molting), and he said this because when you said you tried to feed while he was in shed and he spit it out. They will have no interest in food while in the middle of this process, heck my pacman wont even look at food while he is shedding. I know this because I went to feed him one night and couldn't figure out why he wouldn't eat then I noticed what he was doing so I stopped. All you are doing by trying to make him eat while in shed is really stressing him out, and you have to remember they ingest the excess skin so it probably wouldn't be the best time to force feed not knowing what is already half way down. You wouldn't want the poor guy to vomit or even choke, if he isn't eating a lot you really don't want him to vomit because then he is going to throw up the little bit of food he does eat.

[Dace]

Ok. I only tried that once, figured it was worth a shot because someone had success feeding a sick giant waxy monkey frog that way.