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    Sorry I did not go into much detail on making the vent and it's installation. I was ailing to get this completed and have the frogs in before going on vacation so much occurred without a camera on hand.

    As an update, the frogs are doing great and move everywhere in the viv. They are using the monkey pods as their hides for night time and spend much of the day on the mid level areas of the viv. I have yet to add a piece of banana for a feeding station but plan to before I leave for vacation.
    The Biophytum has had a hard time adjusting to the addition to the tank and the leaves seem to close up most of the time. I suspect that this is due to the leaves touching the cork round it was plants in and the leaves are usually well above anything so they have droop and close and lift to open. Hopefully it takes and grows.... I really like this plant.
    1.0.0 Red Eyed Leaf/ Frog - Agalychnis callidryas
    1.1.1 Bumblebee Dart Frog - Dendrobates leucomelas
    1.1.0 Dendrobates truncatus - Yellow Striped
    1.1.1 Dendrobates tinctorius – Bakhuis Mountain
    1.1.0 - Dendrobates tinctorius - Powder Blue
    1.1.0 - Ranitomeya vanzolinii

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    Great work Don. Quik question, can you expain the bottom part of the tank how is made,like what type is the leaf matter, and what layers did you use. . Looks like a fun project.Sorry to bother you, im getting ideas
    Quote Originally Posted by DonLisk View Post
    Well, the vent is installed, glass is in place, misting system connected, and the plants went in yesterday.
    I am looking for one vine to finish this off but for now, here are the results.


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    Basically I put in a layer of Hydroballs, in this tank two of the small bags should be the right amount.
    I put a piece of window screen material over the Hydroballs and then place a layer of Zilla Jungle Mix over the screen. You can use any frog applicable substrate on top of the screen. Next I place in my accents such as the monkey pods, monkey ladder, and wood or plants that you want growing from the substrate.
    I wet it down with a mister and then cover with leaf liter. I used in this viv Live Oak Liter which is available from many online dealers such as Black Jungle, AAAFrogs, and any of the FrogForum sponsors. Then I mist all the leaf liter down. I like the Live Oak Leaf Liter for the darts since the leaves hold water like little cups and give the frogs a place to hang out in.

    For my Whites and RETFs I like to use Magnolia and Seagrape Leaf Liter since the Whites miss a lo of crickets and can usually pull the larger leaf out of their mouths. The Leaf Liter give the frogs a place to hop around on and not get covered in substrate all the time. You will also find they will get under the liter to hide or look for hidden crickets.
    1.0.0 Red Eyed Leaf/ Frog - Agalychnis callidryas
    1.1.1 Bumblebee Dart Frog - Dendrobates leucomelas
    1.1.0 Dendrobates truncatus - Yellow Striped
    1.1.1 Dendrobates tinctorius – Bakhuis Mountain
    1.1.0 - Dendrobates tinctorius - Powder Blue
    1.1.0 - Ranitomeya vanzolinii

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    This has been very helpful. I have all the matirial. Magnolia,not the wild oak. Thank you for making it clear .

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    Don once again you have literally brought tears to my eyes. TTATT This is a beautiful build as always. Mind sharing some of that magical viv building skill you have? Send some my way if you have any to spare, I need it. XD;

    I am always looking forward to your next projects, and lucky for me you like building tanks as much as I like viewing them. Keep up the good work!
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    Thanks Kisa.
    Too bad I wasn't closer, I'd come help you with that 130 your doing ;-)
    1.0.0 Red Eyed Leaf/ Frog - Agalychnis callidryas
    1.1.1 Bumblebee Dart Frog - Dendrobates leucomelas
    1.1.0 Dendrobates truncatus - Yellow Striped
    1.1.1 Dendrobates tinctorius – Bakhuis Mountain
    1.1.0 - Dendrobates tinctorius - Powder Blue
    1.1.0 - Ranitomeya vanzolinii

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    Quote Originally Posted by DonLisk View Post
    Thanks Kisa.
    Too bad I wasn't closer, I'd come help you with that 130 your doing ;-)
    Oh...what I would give for your help! If I had the money U'd fly you out here myself, but alas, I'm poor. XD; Just imagine what kind of amazing build you could do with 131 gallons of space! I'd like to see you do a monster like that some day.
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    I like her idea...although I'm not any closer either. :P
    Quote Originally Posted by Kisa View Post
    Oh...what I would give for your help! If I had the money U'd fly you out here myself, but alas, I'm poor. XD; Just imagine what kind of amazing build you could do with 131 gallons of space! I'd like to see you do a monster like that some day.
    Last edited by Cody; August 22nd, 2011 at 07:21 PM. Reason: Added a period.

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    Do the frogs actually use the ladder? That might be a stupid question, but I don't have any frogs yet so I am unfamiliar with how they climb.
    Thanks for such a great guide.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tulip55555 View Post
    Do the frogs actually use the ladder? That might be a stupid question, but I don't have any frogs yet so I am unfamiliar with how they climb.
    Thanks for such a great guide.
    The Monkey Ladder is pretty much a vine and has many curves to it. Tree Frogs would like Monkey Ladder to perch from. The Dart Frogs I have d use it to maneuver to higher places in the tank.

    Tree Frogs will spend more time high in a tank so supplying items like vines, branches, and thicker leaf plants will fgive them plenty of places to climb around on and perch or sleep on.
    1.0.0 Red Eyed Leaf/ Frog - Agalychnis callidryas
    1.1.1 Bumblebee Dart Frog - Dendrobates leucomelas
    1.1.0 Dendrobates truncatus - Yellow Striped
    1.1.1 Dendrobates tinctorius – Bakhuis Mountain
    1.1.0 - Dendrobates tinctorius - Powder Blue
    1.1.0 - Ranitomeya vanzolinii

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    Quote Originally Posted by DonLisk View Post
    The Dart Frogs I have d use it to maneuver to higher places in the tank.
    Sorry, but the dart frogs do or don't use it? I don't have any frogs yet, just doing research, so I am unfamiliar with their climbing habits.
    Thanks [again]

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    Yes, dart will climb all over it.
    You can also set it into the substrate to create a root or buried vine effect.
    1.0.0 Red Eyed Leaf/ Frog - Agalychnis callidryas
    1.1.1 Bumblebee Dart Frog - Dendrobates leucomelas
    1.1.0 Dendrobates truncatus - Yellow Striped
    1.1.1 Dendrobates tinctorius – Bakhuis Mountain
    1.1.0 - Dendrobates tinctorius - Powder Blue
    1.1.0 - Ranitomeya vanzolinii

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    Don, I think you are the tank master, lol! Every one I've seen of yours is gorgeous! I am learning bundles. Thanks!
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    Tulip, good luck on yours! It's so much fun. I hope you'll share pictures as yours progresses .
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    Quote Originally Posted by DonLisk View Post
    Well, the vent is installed, glass is in place, misting system connected, and the plants went in yesterday.
    I am looking for one vine to finish this off but for now, here are the results.


    Don, I'm starting my first build like this. The top of the tank is obviously glass I'm using I believe a 40 gallon. How do you get heat into the tank if its a glass top? Will the heat bulb push through the glass? Also any other advice would be awesome pm if ya want thanks!

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