Swollen Upper Lip URGENT

[Zero138]

I have a small Pacific tree frog, that has had a swollen upper lip for a few months now. At first i thought it was a birth defect cause i honestly couldnt remrmber if he was like that when we got him he was always the small one. I looked at it tonight and you can see where it looks like two swollen bumps on the top. It in the last few days has seemed to be worse. He eats just fine but sometimes makes this weird popping noise.
Please tell me if thee is anything I can do. It seems to be an infection I would assume. If anyone knows anything please let me know....
One time he ate a cricket that was too large and looked dead and we had to very gently work the cricket out. after that is when i noticed the lip thing. Is it possible the cricket cut him and its just swollen very slowly?
here is a pic i was able to take. Sorry iphone pic.
Tonight is the worst ive ever seen it. I dont want him to be in pain hes my favorite frog. Hes in with 3 others and none have any issues what so ever...
Thanks,
Brandon Craig.

[Zero138]

After Searching through some pages, ive found others with the same issues and no luck even with vet care...
Sorry for dirtying up the forum I was just worried.
However if anyone has any ideas Id still love to hear them
Thanks,
Brandon Craig

[bshmerlie]

Not sure... is there anyway to take him to a herp vet?

[Zero138]

I may take him in, however the other thread I read that had the same problem had no luck with vet care just a lot of wasted money...

What is a frog safe med that would help if it were an infection?
Keep in mind this would be applied in his mouth not on his skin

[tgampper]

Hi Brandon:

Sorry to hear about your frog. Under the Care Info link above click on Frog First Aid, that may help you find the right treatment. I am just making a guess but I would treat it as a bacterial infection.

[Zero138]

i read through that and i wasn't sure if the two it suggested were going to be safe for inside the mouth...

[Jon K]

I dont know if this helps but the other day when i went to grab my pacman frog to soak him in some water i thought he was bloated on one side and he was making a wierd clicking noise they he slowly started to look like he normally would and i realized it was just defense
what im saying is sometimes if a frog feels threatend it will make itself appear to be larger and make sounds warning the "attacker" to go away

this might not be what your frog is experiencing but i still hoped this helped

[Zero138]

this poor little guy has been like this for a while. So either hes one bad *** frog who thinks hes tough or thats not whats going on...

I have a feeling that eventually he wont be able to eat, however right now hes a fat healthy(minus this issue) little frog

[Jon K]

haha
well if hes been like that for a while then i dont think its the same thing as my pacman frog not sure what else it could be though

[LilyPad]

If you find an experienced vet, they should be able to help you. Some vets are clueless though, so ask them their level of experience with amphibians before spending your money there. I would probably try that before self treating.

[Zero138]

I spoke with a fellow animal lover and they suggested listerine.
He wasnt 100% sure if it was frog safe and advised I ask the forum but said that he had been using it on any case of mouthrot in snakes they had. ( they rescue a bunch of animals )
Any ideas if listerine is frog safe?

[Lacibeth]

Listerine active ingredients: menthol, thymol, eucalytpol, and methyl salicylate (wintergreen oil).

Eucalyptol is a cyclic ether and is toxic if ingested in higher than recommended dosages and it's an ingredient in natural bug sprays.

Thymol is a phenol and has antimicrobial and antifungal properties.

Menthol is another phenol derived from mint oils and is an analgesic.

Methyl salicylate is an ester (fancy phenol) that will dilate capillaries and increase bloodflow and is also an antiseptic--can be fatal is too much is ingested or absorbed.

I would not use it on a frog.