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    itís something iíve been asking myself lately.

    Iíve gotten myself a pacman frog the 7 of july 2018, i adopted her from someone else, who unfortunately underfed her (12 crickets a week for a frog maybe 3Ē long, abit smaller than my palm) back then she looked like this:

    Fast forward to july 30, some nice poeple on here pointed out she had possibly MBD. By then, her mouth looked like this:

    Could she have gotten MBD in less than a month?

    Fastforward to.. today. She is now much larger then she was when i got her. She was 78g now she is 114g. She gets calcium (with D3), more food and variety.
    This morning i noticed something:

    Her lips are ALOT straighter (better) and she is holding herself alot better on her front legs (tho one still seems to be facing sideways) im glad she seems to be doing so much better.

    But i still wonder, how fast does MBD show up? Could she have gotten it in my care? Or is it definitely from her previous owner?

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    MBD presents as symptomatic after the damage has been done. Odds are the early stages developed under the previous owners care but did not present until you acquired it. If you’re noticing improvement maintain a diet of gutloaded insects with the calcium and d3 supplements as you’ve been doing. The addition of low uvb lighting may benefit your frog. MBD is poorly understood in amphibians as opposed to reptiles. In any event there isn’t much to suggest that it is revereable. Continue to provide the care you have been and hopefully you’ll halt it from progressing. Good luck

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    Thank you, (just realised the pictures i tried to post are not showing up) this just confirms what i thought.
    I have heard that uvb can be problematic with albino pacman frogs, is that true? (She is a type of albino)

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    After looking at the pictures I must say that does look like MBD but only a trained exotics vet can make that diagnosis. As far as UVB goes I have heard from some keepers that it can adversely affect albinos but I don’t know if there is any science to support it. I personally do not use UVB on any of my frogs because there is little evidence to support its use at all. The type of bulb you use and the distance from the animal determine the amount that comes into contact. There are lower output bulbs available that should have the distances and output listed in their paperwork.I only mentioned it as a last resort for an obviously sick frog otherwise I never typically recommend it.

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    alright, that makes sense.

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    You shouldn't use UVB on albinos, it isn't good for there eyes and it isn't good for there skin. If you have ever seen an albino person outside in the summer they are usually wearing sunglasses and long sleeve tops or a whole lot of sunblock. I have an albino and I use a really low wattage LED light to simulate the day time. It just lights the tank up enough so she realizes its daytime.

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    Default Re: how fast does MBD appear ?

    Sounds like you nursed this frog back to health with flying colors!

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    Thank you all for your answers, im sure she is on the road to recovery/not getting worse. I weighed her again yesterday and she was now 129g (she had just pooped). She is eating like a champ and putting on weight!

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    Quote Originally Posted by GlamToad View Post
    Thank you all for your answers, im sure she is on the road to recovery/not getting worse. I weighed her again yesterday and she was now 129g (she had just pooped). She is eating like a champ and putting on weight!
    It is so good to hear of your frog eating like she is!

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    Quote Originally Posted by JawsofaFrog View Post
    It is so good to hear of your frog eating like she is!
    Yeah! I know one of the worries was that she’d stop eating. Fortunately she has done nothing but gain weight since i got her

    recently she also changed colors, gained more red around the face:
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    She looks plump and healthy! Thanks for sharing her picture.

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