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    We were given a frog two days ago. We are told it's an Australian tree frog. Kind of purple-ish in color. I read a bit about it and see that it needs more stuff than it has. Presently it's in what looks like a ten gallon aquarium. There is a ceramic swimming pool looking bowl for water and some plastic plants and other stuff in there. I see where it needs to be 80*-86*. And it needs something to climb. Temporarily my wife put in a molding stick in there and Mr. Frog quickly climbed it. She has fed it two meal worms once so far. We are learning, but we need help. I have a 40 gallon aquarium and we plan on using that as a base. We plan to cap it with a mesh screen, maybe 1/4" hardware cloth, over the top that would be the same size as the base aquarium and be lifted out of the way for access. This would give an opportunity to place some taller items (tree branches?) for the little guy (girl?)(How can we tell??) more liberty to choose what to do and where to go. I see there are heaters that can be placed under the tank. How can I choose one that will give the right temp range? They are listed as 100 watts, 200 watts, etc. We are sure bright light, especially sun light is not good for Mr.(s?) Frog. We will see to that. What else does it like to munch on? We were told crickets. She found there is some beetle looking critter moving around in the bottom of the present tank. ANY help, suggestions, recommendations are welcome. My wife presently has three fish aquariums: a 60G with four golds, a 40G with four tri-tales and another 40G with some other unique gold-type fish. She also has a 60" x 18" x 20" turtle tank.
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    Frogs will burrow to cool down, so don't place it on the borrow of the tank. You can put it on the side of the tank, or use a ceramic heat emitter. Heat emitters will greatly lower the humidity though. I think Australian tree frog is another name for White's tree frog? I've never owned this species, but plants of people on the forum do.
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    Can you post a picture of the frog, current setup, and future setup? That would really help with his/her care. Thanks!
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    I have seen a purple morph of the White's species before, but I think they're pretty rare!
    In any case, it will help to have a thermometer/hygrometer to measure temp and humidity. Putting a heater underneath may not be as effective at heating as having a heating pad stuck to the side. If you do this, you should make sure there's no water on that side of the tank that might cause cracking.

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    We sure appreciate the quick help. Great advice for us frog novices. The new tank is 30" longx12" deepx18" tall. I will take pictures of existing set up and occupant tomorrow and post tomorrow night. What do we do for building the new dwelling? Starting at the glass bottom. I read that Sphagnum peat moss is used. Is that across the entire bottom? How thick a mat? And what might be the following layers?
    About that new tank. My plan is to put a tower of sorts on the left hand side. Structure 12" deep x 15" long x 18" tall. It will rest on the tank and provide some taller items for M. Frog to climb on. The remaining 15" of tank top will be covered with a screen that will be hinged to the tower. About that tower...glass/plastic sides with an open top? I thought maybe large mesh screen for sides, but think it may not keep breezes out and let the needed warmth out. Thoughts?
    I like the idea of a ceramic heater on the side. Are those thermostatically controlled? I will look into that.
    Thanks again for helping us.

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    Is this what you mean by "purplish"? In that case it's not a morph.Name:  WhitesDumpyTreeFrog.JPG
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    Anyhow spagnum moss will work to hold humidity. You don't want to put it where the frog can get it while trying to eat a bug. It's been known to stop up frogs.

    You might want to put aquarium gravel or lighter clay LECA balls or other material meant to soak up water on the very bottom of your tank if you want to avoid having the substrate sit in water.

    I wasn't suggesting a ceramic heater on the sides: that might be a bit much for the glass. I was thinking of the heat pads they sell for reptiles. I have not found any of those that are controlled by thermostat. Personally I use overhead heat emitters in heat lamps. I have a large one and a small one and I switch them out as needed.

    Covering up the open side part way with glass or plastic seems like a good idea because keeping warmth and humidity in can be very important in the winter. In any case, that's ambitious and I hope to hear more about how it goes.

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    Here's a pick of our frog. Looks just like yours, Elly! We use marble sized/larger round river rock in the fish aquariums and plan on setting down a layer of that, maybe an inch or so, followed by two 8qt bags of sphagnum moss. That tower build will be 15" wide x 12" deep x 24" tall. That will give Mr. Frog an area to play on some pretty long branches. The tower will be plastic sided and have a screened top for summer and a plastic cover for winter. The heater I'm considering is this:
    http://stores.cllpetsupplies.com/25w...r-submersible/.
    and will be attached to that side of the tank near the bottom. My wife says she plans on misting the environment twice a day when she feeds the fish. We will get a humidistat to verify proper humidity. Any suggestions on what size heater? I'm thinking the 200. Too much? Too little?
    For branches I'm considering something about two/three inches across and cut from one of the area's cherry trees. Remove leaves and most small twigs.
    Are we on the right track to provide for our new friend?
    By the way....I live with Mother Nature. I even have pictures of her feeding a skunk on the front porch from a few years ago! She enjoys all creatures and cares for them all.
    Thank you all so much for your help.
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    Phase one was getting M. Frog. These pics are of phase two. The aquarium has about an inch of the rounded river rock and the obvious layer of peat. M.Frog can be seen just in back of the Roman pillars. Wife empties the swimming pool once a day. M. Frog apparently takes midnight swims. Hard to see, but the temp shows it at 72* and the humidity is over 80%. We have the unit set on 2x4's for now. Creates a space beneath where we placed a heating pad. There was no movement of temperature, so I enclosed it both sides about 3/4's the tank length. We'll see if the temp climbs over night. M. Frog appears to be doing okay so far. I hope we're on the right track with this stuff. Phase three will start in maybe a week or so. Some other projects are in the way right now. Already late putting in the garden. Darned rain!
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    It's good she's changing the water once a day, I notice the waterbowls double as frog toilets. Looks good. If it gets too messy you try leaf litter, durable leaves like Magnolia from a place that doesn't use pesticides, boiled and baked well to kill bugs. Or you can put around some large, flat rocks that are too big for the frog to eat.

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