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    Clearly a Ranid of some sort. Where was it found?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herpin Man View Post
    Clearly a Ranid of some sort. Where was it found?
    i purchased it as a tadpole from a local store in Delaware. They claimed it was an African bullfrog, clearly, its not. I was thinking a marsh frog possibly, only because green is starting to come in.

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    Rana sierra?

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    FIGURED IT OUT

    Tarahumara Frog

    http://www.reptilesofaz.org/Turtle-Amphibs-Subpages/h-l-tarahumarae.html

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    Wow that was some serious fraud.

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    Right? I would be pretty mad at whoever sold these frogs as African Bullfrogs.
    Also, I looked up the Tarahumara frog. In Arizona it is protected, and some resources say it has been extirpated from the US. Between the rarity and protected status of the frog and the tadpoles looking slightly different(more tail coloration/iridescence on Tarahumara Frogs)
    I think these may simply be the ever-common American Bullfrog. Below is a link to a picture I found on google images( I do not own it etc) of a American Bullfrog Tadpole. I think the spots match pretty well, as well as the drab coloration. American Bullfrogs are very common, as tadpoles are often sold at pond supply stores to help keep ponds clean, as well as at some pet stores, aquariums etc.
    https://i.pinimg.com/originals/8e/db...1058b4eac2.jpg

    Also, a link to the original thread so Herpin Man can see the tadpoles:
    http://www.frogforum.net/showthread....rican-Bullfrog

    All that being said, If they are Tarahumaras that'd be really weird and very interesting.
    1 Male Giant African Bullfrog
    2 Woodhouse's Toads
    11 Pacific Treefrogs
    1 Dubia Roach Colony
    2 Australian Green Treefrogs

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    Quote Originally Posted by daybr4ke View Post
    Right? I would be pretty mad at whoever sold these frogs as African Bullfrogs.
    Also, I looked up the Tarahumara frog. In Arizona it is protected, and some resources say it has been extirpated from the US. Between the rarity and protected status of the frog and the tadpoles looking slightly different(more tail coloration/iridescence on Tarahumara Frogs)
    I think these may simply be the ever-common American Bullfrog. Below is a link to a picture I found on google images( I do not own it etc) of a American Bullfrog Tadpole. I think the spots match pretty well, as well as the drab coloration. American Bullfrogs are very common, as tadpoles are often sold at pond supply stores to help keep ponds clean, as well as at some pet stores, aquariums etc.
    https://i.pinimg.com/originals/8e/db...1058b4eac2.jpg

    Also, a link to the original thread so Herpin Man can see the tadpoles:
    http://www.frogforum.net/showthread....rican-Bullfrog

    All that being said, If they are Tarahumaras that'd be really weird and very interesting.
    i dont believe this is an American bullfrog.

    american bullfrogs have dorsolateral folds as where this species does not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by elly View Post
    Wow that was some serious fraud.
    I went back to the shop last night. And the kid tried telling me they are African bullfrogs....again lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by froggy101 View Post
    I went back to the shop last night. And the kid tried telling me they are African bullfrogs....again lol
    Oh no. Maybe you should use internet visual aids? Or speak to the manager?

    Do even young American Bullfrogs have folds?

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    That's true. I was mainly thinking about the tadpoles and attributed differences in the frog to it's being young. Looking again, that is a missing key feature of the American Bullfrog, so I think you're right. I dunno what these frogs are, but If I come across any information that's relevant, I'll post it.
    1 Male Giant African Bullfrog
    2 Woodhouse's Toads
    11 Pacific Treefrogs
    1 Dubia Roach Colony
    2 Australian Green Treefrogs

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    Quote Originally Posted by froggy101 View Post
    I went back to the shop last night. And the kid tried telling me they are African bullfrogs....again lol
    I feel like something should be done about this. That's really shady business. I don't know whether it should simply be a yelp review or what.
    1 Male Giant African Bullfrog
    2 Woodhouse's Toads
    11 Pacific Treefrogs
    1 Dubia Roach Colony
    2 Australian Green Treefrogs

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    Quote Originally Posted by elly View Post
    Oh no. Maybe you should use internet visual aids? Or speak to the manager?

    Do even young American Bullfrogs have folds?
    3 months ago he told me they were African bullfrogs, and just over the phone today he tells me they are Florida bullfrogs (?). I called him out on the lies, he then said, when we get them from the distributor they are only labeled as 'tadpoles'. I honestly think he has no idea what they are and just picked a random name. Which, of all the frogs in the world, why African bullfrog?

    I plan on going in tomorrow asking for the distributors info. And not to be a prick, but to find out if this species is truly a T. frog. Then again, the distributor probably doesn't know and will claim he uses a distributor.

    As for the folds, good point. Pictures I have seen online, some do and some don't. At this point, I think I need to wait and see if the colors and/or markings change.

    I will be shocked if it's an american bullfrog.

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    That's all kinds of shady, but the worst part is that his distributor might not even know what frogs he's picking up, they could be endangered. So I don't think it makes you a prick, just concerned. Also how can any pet owners take proper care of their frogs if they don't know what species they are.

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    Yep that's shady for sure, sorry to hear you didn't actually get the frogs you were after. I personally don't think if the store selling the animal doesn't even know how to tell the difference between species they shouldn't be selling them, to me that's a clear indicator they don't know what they are doing and how to give the animals the proper care they need till someone buys them. I was in a pet shop here a couple days ago just looking around killing some time and I came across a terrarium were they had the animal inside labeled as a Pacman Treefrog, it was a pacman but we all know those chunkers aren't climbing through trees. I just laughed and looked at my daughter and said I would never buy any animal from the store.

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