So I have two tanks. One is full of water and tads, the other is a transition tank that is half sand/coco fiber, with some bark for hiding, that has the most mature tadpoles in it. And as of right now, two baby tree frogs!!! One is on land, the other is on the glass!!! Just in case I miss one, I have a piece of Styrofoam in the tadpole tank, so they can climb on that. They could also climb on the Hornwort slash scum I've been feeding them, which sticks out of the water in a few spots...
Anyway, collecting my thoughts here so early in the morning, my plan is to get fruit flies tomorrow. If the pet store is out, how long do I have before I need to feed these guys? I assume a few days until the tail is absorbed. I guess I need general advice on rearing gray treefrog froglets, I've never done this before... Most of them will be released right away, the rest will become pets for myself and my friends... Also I have an LED light on the tad tank, with that melt my foam and release chemicals? I've not known them to get very hot, but I figured I'd ask... Thanks!
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Sounds like what you are doing is good, and if the pet-store is out of fruit flies, I would order springtails and other small invertabrates
remove most of the water, they need to be moist, but not wet. have some hiding places, and make sure the lid does not allow the fruit flies to escape. i have used fabric to seal a tank to keep the flies inside. Good luck. my baby Greys did not eat for 5 days after they became froglets. mine ate pinheads. They are so cute at this stage.
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OK, I'll drain the transition tank. I do have some tads in there who don't have front legs yet, right now there is about two inches of water, so I think I can lower that and still keep these tads happy. Should i start a third tank with a water bowl for the fully transformed frogs? The cloth is a good idea! I also have some pinhead lateralis, but I'm worried about them being too big initially... Both the froglets were on the glass this morning! Can springtails climb glass? They might make a better feeder than fruit flies... Also how long can I feed them before I need to release them for the excess tads that I won't be keeping? State law says 30 days, but since they are new I figured sooner would be prudent, but I don't want to turn them loose on an empty stomach either... Thanks guys!
2 White's Tree frogs, Merrill and Morgan.
1 Brachypelma Vagans (no name yet)
1 Brachypelma Smithi (no name yet)
1 Psalmopoeus Irminia (no name yet)
1 Poecilotheria Metallica (no name yet)
1 Avicularia Versicolor (no name yet)
1 Grammastola Pultripes (no name yet)
1 Grammastola Pulchra (no name yet)
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Assorted plants...
you need a tank with no water for the babies. they will drown. it happened to me. Once they have their arms and the tail is resorbing, take them out of water. mist the tank with dechlorinated water. You will have to keep them separate. the ones with no arms obviously need water. Springtails are a good meal, but they can and will eat pinheads if you can find them. springtails don't climb the tanks as far as i can tell. don't worry about the state coming after you. it's not going to happen unless a friend reports you.
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I think I'm all set. I have a tank with moist substrate but no standing water for the babies, a transition tank for them to climb out, and obviously a tank with regular tads in it. How often should I mist them at this stage? They haven't taken food yet...
2 White's Tree frogs, Merrill and Morgan.
1 Brachypelma Vagans (no name yet)
1 Brachypelma Smithi (no name yet)
1 Psalmopoeus Irminia (no name yet)
1 Poecilotheria Metallica (no name yet)
1 Avicularia Versicolor (no name yet)
1 Grammastola Pultripes (no name yet)
1 Grammastola Pulchra (no name yet)
1x10^3 B Dubia
1x10^3 B Lateralis
1x10^3 native isopods, in a surprising variety of color morphs.
Assorted plants...
Sprintails are a good snack, but not as a main feeder. You also need to dust their feeders with vitamins or calcium daily at this stage. That's pretty much impossible to do with springs. I ordered my initial fruit flies online and then did my own cultures off the ones that I ordered.
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trust your instinct with misting. i always make sure i include the frog under the mist so they can absorb some. i do include a water dish but a very low one with the babies.
This is Sticky eating his very first pin head cricket. i was so proud. YES the pinheads were slightly too large for him, but he did not care.
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Aww! That's completely adorable! My little guys aren't eating yet, as of a half hour ago when I tried... They did learn to change color though...
2 White's Tree frogs, Merrill and Morgan.
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1 Brachypelma Smithi (no name yet)
1 Psalmopoeus Irminia (no name yet)
1 Poecilotheria Metallica (no name yet)
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Assorted plants...
You should not remove a tadpole from water that has 4 legs. You should provide it with an easy way to get onto land when it is ready. In the early days after the front legs emrge the tadpole begins changing to be suited for land. It will go onto land when it is ready (which typically is when 1/4 of the tail is left).
You should also avoid spraying water directly onto the frogs. Now dont miss read that and say "How can i miss him completely" Its ok to get over spray on them and dont worry if you do occasionally spray them, but it stresses them out when you target them with the water. Don't believe me, try it, most froglets and adult frogs will move to get out of the spray.
All other advice is pretty spot on
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they won't eat until about 5 days after the tail is totally resorbed. And if they skip an extra day or two, that is fine. i never said to spray them directly, but to include them in the mist.
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I'm not sure if springtails can climb straight up glass, but they can definitely go up the silicone on the corners. They usually want to stay down in the moist substrate though.
A cloth cover can work to help keep tiny things in, I've used panty hose stretched over the top for the same purpose.
Interesting, I've never had a flight reaction from a fine mist. I've often had frogs react to the motion and try to eat the mist, but never flight. Still, I think we're all in agreement about not hosing down the froglets, and rather let them regulate their own water intake by moving to the wet or dry areas of the tank.
[QUOTE=UncleChester;261901]Interesting, I've never had a flight reaction from a fine mist. I've often had frogs react to the motion and try to eat the mist, but never flight.QUOTE]
Yup, my adult American Green Tree-frogs hate being misted, every time I mist them, they wing it to the other side of their enclosure
Of my greys, I have 2 that take cover when I'm misting, the other that tries to eat it!
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OK guys, misting aside I have a new issue. I have six babies climbed out if the water and were transferred. Tonight I found one who appears to be full of air... He floats on his side and has trouble crawling out swimming? I don't want him to suffocate, or drown... He doesn't look well... He also assists to have bleeding near his rear legs internally. Does he have a chance of pulling through?
2 White's Tree frogs, Merrill and Morgan.
1 Brachypelma Vagans (no name yet)
1 Brachypelma Smithi (no name yet)
1 Psalmopoeus Irminia (no name yet)
1 Poecilotheria Metallica (no name yet)
1 Avicularia Versicolor (no name yet)
1 Grammastola Pultripes (no name yet)
1 Grammastola Pulchra (no name yet)
1x10^3 B Dubia
1x10^3 B Lateralis
1x10^3 native isopods, in a surprising variety of color morphs.
Assorted plants...
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I think he made it... Or else somebody ate him and another frog transformed... One of the baby frogs did die though, I guess it would be unusual for "wild caught" tads to all make it with no issues...
2 White's Tree frogs, Merrill and Morgan.
1 Brachypelma Vagans (no name yet)
1 Brachypelma Smithi (no name yet)
1 Psalmopoeus Irminia (no name yet)
1 Poecilotheria Metallica (no name yet)
1 Avicularia Versicolor (no name yet)
1 Grammastola Pultripes (no name yet)
1 Grammastola Pulchra (no name yet)
1x10^3 B Dubia
1x10^3 B Lateralis
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Assorted plants...
Hmm.. weird. i am sorry you lost one or two. yes it happens a lot in nature.
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Correction, found him dead, along with one other. I think I need to purge the tank and sterilize it... I removed the first corpse and left it to dry out, just out of curiosity, and it sprouted fungus... I'm super nervous now, does chytrid do that?
2 White's Tree frogs, Merrill and Morgan.
1 Brachypelma Vagans (no name yet)
1 Brachypelma Smithi (no name yet)
1 Psalmopoeus Irminia (no name yet)
1 Poecilotheria Metallica (no name yet)
1 Avicularia Versicolor (no name yet)
1 Grammastola Pultripes (no name yet)
1 Grammastola Pulchra (no name yet)
1x10^3 B Dubia
1x10^3 B Lateralis
1x10^3 native isopods, in a surprising variety of color morphs.
Assorted plants...
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